While speaking on the final night of the GOP midterm convention, Vice President JD Vance said the country was “poorer” and “dirtier” before President Donald Trump was reelected for a second term.

“We were tired of being called racists for noticing that our country was becoming dirtier and poorer, and less safe and less prosperous,” Vance said on the final day of the two-day convention in Dallas, Texas.

His sentiment appeared to reflect the administration’s efforts to combat rising immigration rates in the U.S., a key campaign point during the 2024 election. Vance himself promoted unsubstantiated claims about Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio, in September 2024, spreading misinformation about the community abducting and eating pets.

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      American workers have been getting poorer since the 1970s.

      Every President, bOtH pArTiEs, American workers are poorer.

      Poland now has better benefits for their people, with benefits that most Americans will never see (and they’re paid almost as much, with less taxation, on a smaller budget).

      Family leave (41 weeks!). Vacation time (20 days!!!). Universal healthcare. Sick leave. “Occasional” leave, for the love of God. Sounds nice.

      I guess their labor party can do so much more with so much less, for some reason.

      https://www.dudkowiak.com/employment-law-in-poland/employee-benefits-in-poland

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    The U.S. has become safer and safer every decade since the 90s. It didn’t matter who was president…always safer.

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    “We are tired of being called racists for noticing America is getting dirty. Call us racist because we view people who are different than us as inherently lesser.”

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      I mean, not to get too deep into the weeds here but it seems like he’s literally saying dirtier because of the people in it, not like trash dirtier. It’s not even a misdirect on the phrase it’s a straight up dogwhitsle calling poor people dirty and equating that to non-white people. Your analysis is pretty spot on but more specifically “ Call us racist because we view people who are different than us as inherently dirtier. “ which is straight out of hitlers handbook. Almost like Trump has said handbook nearby, at the ready, like at his bedside table or something…

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          That’s what I’m saying tho it’s not thin. It’s not barley even a dog whistle but we’ve pulled that window so far right that saying America is dirty (not trash, but literally the people) is just blatant racism. And you got some guy in here saying it’s paranoia. Ha

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          do you think racists don’t use dog whistles? or that Republicans haven’t been using racist dog whistles since the southern strategy?

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              I didn’t even think conservatives could find their way out here. Fascinating. Do you think dogwhistles don’t exist? Cuz I see dudes around who have em tattooed on them… even tho thier tat doesn’t say heil Hitler, it says 1488, it’s literally what it means. It’s called a dog whistle because it’s meaningless unless you know what the true intentions are.

              (Or quite literally, you blow a whistle only dogs can hear, meaning you can only “hear it” if you’re a certain kind of person that’s “in the know”) Trump does it all the time, too, I can prove it if needed. Usually I wouldn’t explain the concept but if you’re a right winger it’s gonna be totally necessary for this conversation to work out.

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              it would be great if you could answer the question. Are you saying Dog whistles don’t exist? are you claiming the Republican party hasn’t been using dog whistles since the southern strategy of Nixon’s third presidential campaign?

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    JD Vance: “Am I racist for wanting those filthy dirty Haitians to take a shower and go back to their country?”

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    In the past year, I’ve been called racist, commie, Trumper, Nazi, transphobic, tankie, fascist, fundamentalist, sexist, and Satanist.

    Buck up Vance, you little bitch

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    So here is the thing. Fox News is abhorrent, its a fact. Except, Fox didnt create these monsters from thin air. In fact, Id bet it was years of probing and market research to maximize viewership that manifested their siren song.

    The way I see it, fox just wants control. They have no ideology but will mask how ever the public wants to get them to listen. Once they have the right mask they start programming.

    This is a long way of saying if racism wasnt just an inherent trait of being evil it could have been anything else and people like trump or vance would play along to get their way.

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      I’m not sure if fox is to blame here. I think a lot of it is citizens continually seeing corruption in the government. Politicians can do whatever they want and get away with it. Insider trading, tax fund laundering, everything. And people see their money get taken from them and go to absolutely nothing. NOTHING.

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    It is getting dirtier and poorer, and all the guys responsible sat pride-of-place at the inauguration.

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      “If I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention to the suffering of the American people, then that’s what I’m going to do.”

      JD Vance on why it’s ok to lie about immigrants if it makes his base like him more. There is no comeuppance great enough for what they’re doing, and he knows it. A lot of the base may be too brainwashed, but he can see that he is ruining the country and he not only doesn’t care but is reveling in it.

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    This is so funny because to the people he’s pandering to, his children are the dirt in this country.

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      It’s baffling to me that he is in an interracial marriage and is… Fine? With saying this kind of stuff? Idk maybe she is a monster too and it’s just cherry picking what is considered bad in their moral compass…

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        She must be a monster, she married JD Vance.

        A few days ago Vance also got really riled up when discussing this kinda stuff. He said something about El Sayed not being the kinda person his hick granpappy would approve of and El Sayed shot back asking if the hick granpappy would approve of his wife. It really set him off, going on about how El Sayed shouldn’t bring Vance’s family into this. It was kinda funny to watch him squirm.

        JD Vance is nothing. He’s not evil or stupid or whatever like the other MAGA people. He’ just a guy that nobody likes.

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          Wait, sounds like Vance brought his family into the convo first. The mental gymnastics these sad sacks of shit perform boggles me.

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          He’s a grifter. James is an ivy leaguer who makes hay about his single mother and “hillbilly roots” while wears eyeliner and pretends to be a tough guy.
          It’s no surprise he talks out of both sides of his mouth.

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          Monster for staying married after already having kids or monster for marrying? The Vance of the early-mid 2010s was very different before the Thiel money kicked in. He compared Trump to Hitler.

          He was very easily bought though.

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        It’s baffling to me that he is in an interracial marriage and is… Fine?

        Usha Vance is a very pale skinned, high caste (Brahmin), wealthy migrant who was set up with JD Vance by Yale Law kingmaker Amy Chua.

        This was a political marriage in the feudal sense. Vance is married in order to secure a social tie to Indian power brokers, as part of a generations-long effort by American elites to encircle Asia and control their domestic politics.

        Same reason why Mitch McConnell married Tiawanese shipping magnet Elaine Chao.

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          That’s really interesting. Crazy this shit still happens. I guess I’m just not rich enough. And I’m gonna be pedantic, it’s magnate when you’re referring to someone who is a pillar of industry, not magnet 😉

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        Indian people tend to be considered white in a lot of American spaces. May have to do with the amount of Indian immigrants that are higher caste/lighter skinned. They tend to be super racist towards black people and darker Asians

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          Don’t know why you’re downvoted like that, casteism/colorism is well-known within the Indian community. The Brahmins and White nationalists are like-minded in that sense, although the White nationalists still see themselves as superior.

          They are religiofascist to a degree and demonize Muslims and enforce the “superiority” of Hinduism. There are definitely some mirrors to what has happened in their government versus ours.

          I mean, some Indians have a fetish for Hitler, rooted in stupid legends about Aryanism. The pick-me-ism is insane.

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            I think the down votes are probably because I’ve never encountered a space where Indians are considered white, maybe in Silicon Valley? I hear more racist jokes about Indians than any other ethnic group in the Southeast US, though I hear more racist comments about black people and Hispanics.

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          Maybe it’s because I’m from a weird Californian region but I fell like Indians are generally pumped into the “dirty Asians” category regardless of caste or skin tone. But also I’ve seen really racist assholes defend the local Sikhs in particular so maybe my region is just weird.

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        Remember this is the guy who called the pedo a traitor for his role in Jan 6, then like a year later accepting the position as his VP.

        His words are whatever he needs them to be.

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        My theory is that he’s slowly and deliberately trying to poison his own marriage so his wife will divorce him, then he’ll try to marry Erika Kirk.

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          The leather pants she wore during her Charlie Kirk grief tour reminded him of his couch and it hasn’t left his mind since.

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        I think exceptions and tokens play an important role in permitting the followers of fascists to deny the general principles of the people they follow, even in their own minds. For example, if Vance’s wife is brown, then Trump can’t hate all brown people, right? Then he must be rounding up those other brown people for some reason other than their being brown. The news keeps saying they’re rounding up criminals, many of whom happen to be brown, and the Left keeps screeching that Republicans hate all brown people, but his wife is brown… so the Left must be lying. The evidence to the contrary is right in front of your eyes.

        And so on. Tokens are kept around by Republicans because they provide the thinnest possible veneer of plausible deniability to people who are afraid of non-whites but don’t want to think of themselves as racists. It’s a convenient off-ramp from a road that would otherwise tempt them to think difficult thoughts about themselves and the policies they approve of or at least willfully ignore.

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        Not to sound like a Vaush fanboy, but think he has a point when he says these people don’t actually believe what they’re saying. It’s just an excuse for cruelty.

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      Fascism has taken on a new form when it comes to race. I think people focus too heavily on the historical examples of fascism in an attempt to “reason” it as an ideology.

      The racial structures of fascism are there to uphold white supremacy, patriarchy, and class. The contradiction is useful for the fascist. It is not a flaw or something that will cause conflict to other fascist. JD vance’s wife being Indian is seen as “useful”. Nothing more. That’s primarily how fascism operates. It’s why the definition of “Aryan” changed throughout place and time under Nazi rule. It’s the reason why who is considered “White” didn’t even include Germans when Benjamin Franklin used was using the term.

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      You realise that this is still better than republicans don’t mind being racist, which is still better than republicans being proud to be racist.

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    This isn’t why they were called racists. They were called racists for claiming that Barack Obama wasn’t American, for trying to build a wall to keep out Central and South Americans, and for banning immigration from countries where most people are Muslim.