germans far right is exactly the same. leaked chats showed the most vile disgusting shit. but the sad part is, that you don’t even need those leaked chats. official politicians suggested shooting at immigrants, killing opponents and getting rid of our grundgesetz (which resembles your constitution).
but ask “moderate” if we should use our law that allows us to prohibit parties that clearly attack our grundgesetz and they will come up with the law of free speech (which doesn’t apply in this case). the irony: the far right already made clear that free speech of the first thing to go when they are in charge.
for gods sake read some karl popper: you can’t tolerate the intolerant! free speech can only justify free speech as long as that speech doesn’t attack the freedom of others.
My husband is a high school teacher. He’s had more than a decade of students saying Nazi shit in an attempt to be “edgy.” They seem surprised when he calls them out on their bullshit. His response has made a few (probably too few) of them think twice about how people perceive them because of their words.
Last year was the first time he had a student who spouted that crap because he actually believed it. I think he has a couple of students now who actively identify as fascists. Times, they are a-changin’.
Sometimes it’s “being edgy just for the sake of it isn’t cool. Don’t be an idiot; people fought wars over this.” Students generally respect him, so once they realize he doesn’t play that game, they stop doing it in his classes.
If it’s a specific kind of bigotry, he points out that someone important to him is black/gay/trans/an immigrant/etc, and asks the kid if they’ve even met someone in that group. Most of the time the kid hasn’t and they’re just parroting things they’ve heard at home or online.
If, as kids with this mentality, were never punished or corrected it just carries over.
For a lot of these 4chan-tier chuds, the behavior was likely rewarded and encouraged. That’s how you get Charlie Kirk and Nick Fuentes tier freaks. We are quite literally paying these people to exist and reproduce.
Vance already said it was kids doing dumb kid things. They’re not kids. They’re adults. If you’re old enough to vote, your a freaking adult. If you can fight and die in the military, you’re an adult. You never see anyone say oh those are just kid soldiers doing kid soldiers things. No because they’re adults who are responsible for their own actions and words.
Are those actual leaked quotes on the right?? Good lord!!
germans far right is exactly the same. leaked chats showed the most vile disgusting shit. but the sad part is, that you don’t even need those leaked chats. official politicians suggested shooting at immigrants, killing opponents and getting rid of our grundgesetz (which resembles your constitution).
but ask “moderate” if we should use our law that allows us to prohibit parties that clearly attack our grundgesetz and they will come up with the law of free speech (which doesn’t apply in this case). the irony: the far right already made clear that free speech of the first thing to go when they are in charge.
for gods sake read some karl popper: you can’t tolerate the intolerant! free speech can only justify free speech as long as that speech doesn’t attack the freedom of others.
This meme was my first exposure to the leaked texts. I suppose having read the articles about this, I’ll believe anything now.
Sadly it feels as if the US is reliving Germany’s pre-WWII history and it feels like we are all just sleepwalking into the same hell.
Every so often though there’s a little good news. We shall see.
And confirmed: we cannot be tolerant of the intolerant!
In case you haven’t seen the report,
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/14/private-chat-among-young-gop-club-members-00592146
Thank you.
I’m stunned.
The right will boys will be boys this shit until the skies fill with the smoke of voters.
I’m not. Kids did this shit all the time in middle and high school. These people just never ran into any kind of push back or experienced maturity
My husband is a high school teacher. He’s had more than a decade of students saying Nazi shit in an attempt to be “edgy.” They seem surprised when he calls them out on their bullshit. His response has made a few (probably too few) of them think twice about how people perceive them because of their words.
Last year was the first time he had a student who spouted that crap because he actually believed it. I think he has a couple of students now who actively identify as fascists. Times, they are a-changin’.
So what is his go-to response?
Sometimes it’s “being edgy just for the sake of it isn’t cool. Don’t be an idiot; people fought wars over this.” Students generally respect him, so once they realize he doesn’t play that game, they stop doing it in his classes.
If it’s a specific kind of bigotry, he points out that someone important to him is black/gay/trans/an immigrant/etc, and asks the kid if they’ve even met someone in that group. Most of the time the kid hasn’t and they’re just parroting things they’ve heard at home or online.
That sounds like a really good strategy, I like it. Also he must be a good teacher to be respected like that. Thank you both for being the good guys.
None of them were kids, which is sad, but I get your point. If, as kids with this mentality, were never punished or corrected it just carries over.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/10/republican-hitler-group-chat-nazi-politico/
They all were at some point.
For a lot of these 4chan-tier chuds, the behavior was likely rewarded and encouraged. That’s how you get Charlie Kirk and Nick Fuentes tier freaks. We are quite literally paying these people to exist and reproduce.
Glad I was homeschooled then
YMMV. It’s more you should be grateful you didn’t have racist parents.
Vance already said it was kids doing dumb kid things. They’re not kids. They’re adults. If you’re old enough to vote, your a freaking adult. If you can fight and die in the military, you’re an adult. You never see anyone say oh those are just kid soldiers doing kid soldiers things. No because they’re adults who are responsible for their own actions and words.
And not even ‘technically 19 years olds are adults’ type adults, these are men aged 25-34 who posted that shit.
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I thought the comics was clumsy satire. Turns out it’s basically straight infographics at this point.
Great.
I recognize a couple of them from an article, so I think they are.
Verified in New York Times. The graphic of the bubbles comes from politico.