The former president made multiple chilling warnings during an interview with Time magazine.

Donald Trump hasn’t quite let go of the possibility of utilizing mob violence if he loses the next election.

In a sprawling interview for Time magazine, Trump hinted that leveraging political violence to achieve his end goals was still on the table.

“If we don’t win, you know, it depends,” he told Time. “It always depends on the fairness of the election.”

And from Trump’s perspective, that’s winning rhetoric. According to him, his incendiary comments supporting a mob mentality, his early warnings of forthcoming abuses of power, and his threats to be a dictator on “day one” are only inching him closer to the White House. “I think a lot of people like it,” Trump told Time.

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    January 6th was a failed coup attempt.

    How is saying you’ll retry your failed coup attempt if you don’t get your way something were allowing a presidential candidate to do?

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      Because he “tells it like it is” or something. Idk. The kind of people still falling for his grift are too shameless to ever admit that they ever fell for his grift, so they’re doubling down, succumbing to the sunk cost fallacy. They just stay in their echo chambers and saturate their awareness with weird culture war shit and then never hear about what’s actually happening. Half of them probably don’t even know that their guy is a defendant in criminal court this week. Willfully ignorant.

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        No I’m fine with uneducated masses eating it up.

        I’m not okay with judges pulling out their dentures to slobber on trumps balls over matters that threaten the whole country instead of figuratively castrating him the moment he says shit like this.

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          Agreed. But conservatives have learned over the past 10-20 years that they can more or less just do whatever they want without consequence because 1/3 of the people will fight to the death for whatever they do or say, 1/3 is completely unaware and uninterested in politics and current events, and the final 1/3 is people like us who want consequences but we’re too busy to do anything ourselves because survival is hard enough these days. There are a hundred things worthy of outrage and organized demonstration too, so which cause do we dedicate our summer to trying to fix? The right has an easier time because they just say “things used to be better” and then have one event where people complain about change. Pretty much everybody can identify with being pissed off that something used to be better until they changed it, and for some reason that’s strong enough to get some pretty average people to sit at the table with Nazis. There’s much more nuance and thoughtfulness on the left, so it’s much harder to get unity.

          Because conservatives can grow and maintain a reliable base to keep them in power, they feel no need to even pretend to be decent most of the time. They can just fervently choose their own selfish goals over what the Constitution or other rules and laws demand. I don’t think it’s hyperbole to say that we’re rapidly approaching the era of post-democracy America. Some would say we’ve been there for decades already, but I think we’re in for some dictatorial, executions-in-the-streets type of shit if Biden loses. So conservatives in power who like trump or even suspect that he may win or get into power otherwise have to weigh doing the right thing which could hurt their party and draw targets on their backs vs low/no consequence siding with trump.

          "If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy.”—David Frum

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      They have teeth. But half of the people who decide whether or not they pursue charges against someone are republican appointees.

      So, you know… teeth, but corrupted leadership.

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          Yes and no. I can’t speak to the particulars of this situation but differences in means matter even if they currently produce the same outcome. A toothless dog and a dog in a muzzle are different in important ways.

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    How many more Babbits will trump create when he can’t tell the capital police to stand down? Or even, how many of his idiot followers are even going to show up when they got fucked and abandoned last time?

    You’re a pathetic weakling Donnie, go sit the fuck down and pout to a judge.

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      How many more Babbits will trump create when he can’t tell the capital police to stand down?

      Enough Ashley Babbits and its less of a problem for conservatives than for the police.

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    Question is what exactly does he mean? That MAGA republicans from around USA will visit the capitol city and go to see congress, all completely peacefully. we just have to hope the LGTB people don’t make a mess of it.

    Because isn’t that what he claimed happened?

    Trump is such a malignant idiot, and so is everybody who supports him.

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        Can’t upset conservatives or they won’t vote for me. And my entire election strategy hinges on winning over as many moderate conservatives as possible.

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      Trump primary turnout eclipsed his 2016 run. Conservatives are at least as hyped in 2024 as they were in 2020. Meanwhile, Liberals are trying to decide whether they need to send more bombs to kill Palestinians or start dropping shells on Columbia instead.

      Looking really grim.

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        You mean purported leftist voters are going to elect Trump and end democracy bc they’re angry about Gaza?

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          I think leftist voters are getting purged from rolls across the country and won’t have a say in the matter either way.

          But voter caging, disenfranchisement, and other ratfvckery will amount to a Trump win in the same way it amounted to a Bush win in 2000 and a Nixon win in 1968.

          These protests will become the excuse Democrats use to further justify purging leftist voters from their ranks, in the same way they used it to purge Greens in 2000 and Socialists in 1968. And it will result in more loses as the country marches further and further into the grip of fascist state policy.

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    Yikes, forgive me if this is a naive question but how are these kinds of veiled threats against American democracy okay with Homeland Security?

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        Makes sense. But conservativism pre-dates Trump and realistically will soon outlive him.

        It seems odd to me that they are happy to have someone random dismantle bedrock US political system? Or are conservatives less keen on democracy?

        Also I get the impression he doesn’t have a conservative ideology himself, he seems like more of an opportunist than a believer.

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    I have strong doubts. The people most likely to “Jan 6” did. A number of them, particularly the mid-level leaders, that actually organized things, are in prison. They have not turned out in numbers since they started getting arrested.

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      They got light sentences. And let’s face it, the people that are going to organize yet another insurrection are going to be duped by the same logic that Trump will pardon them or that their acts are justified.

      Trump is threatening our democracy. Again.

      He’s saying that if he doesn’t win, there’s going to be another insurrection.

      The sad reality is that over the last four years, fascist states have put laws into place that make it legal to overturn elections for little to no reason. No oversight.

      He won’t need an insurrection because he has willing accomplices.

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        They got light sentences.

        False. Some of the ones that took a plea deal got light sentences. They also can no longer vote.

        The ones that didn’t take plea deals got sentences completely in line with the Federal Sentencing guidelines, because that is how our modern Federal courts work.

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            Yeah but for the majority of federal crimes you’re probably comparing these sentences to drug offender sentences which are much harsher because of the seriousness of the offense.

            /s before crucifixion; drug sentences are ridiculous and these traitors getting anything less than a felony disqualifying them from participating in the system they tried to break is madness.

            Believing someone when they say the money in the cash register is rightly yours and should be taken by force does not mean you get a pass when you rob a gas station.

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        Per the new rules in my state, all my history books have had the pages from 1924 to 1957 torn out. So I’m assuming this part of history was just woke and soy and therefore unimportant.

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          Oh man, you didn’t get to read about how our good Christian American soldiers kicked the ass of the Godless Communist Germany in WW2?

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            No. But I was told by a private student group funded through the anonymous donation of particularly religious billionaires that I needed to “do my own research” on who the real bad guys were.

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        But that won’t take them any closer to toppling the government. Jan. 6 could only happen because Trump actively prevented the police from doing their jobs. That won’t happen under Biden.

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    What’s wrong with a Tourist Visit? Or was January 6th NOT a Tourist Visit?