• shalafi@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2·
    4 hours ago

    This is all very cute, but those Windows items don’t apply to me.

    • I’ve never paid for Windows, not even preinstalled on a machine.
    • It’s set so updates are not forced, but I update anyway because it hasn’t caused me an issue since… ? I can’t remember. A decade or more?
    • Rooted out the telemetry and/or blocked it. I accomplished this faster than setting up any given Linux desktop I’ve used.
    • This Windows install has ridden the same SSD across 3 or 4 machines for 8 years or more. Not sure I’ve ever had a BSOD on this install, and you won’t either if your hardware isn’t soft damaged.
  • expletivedeleted@lemmy.zip
    3·
    5 hours ago

    I was a Linux admin on a team of fourteen. A Windows Server admin bragged at his server had gone a full two months without a reboot.

    In fact, it was 65 days. The other Windows admins congratulated him. He came over to tell me the news, which I already overheard and sshed in to check my uptime.

    “821 days uptime.” He got disappointed. That’s cool, because he was a jerk for many reasons.

    But deep inside, I realized I needed to stay late after the call center closed, as it is a good idea to apply kernal patches to your firewall.

    • mantricx@lemmy.world
      1·
      51 minutes ago

      Yeah I was going to say, even just as a homelab admin, I can keep my OS uptime high if I want to, and just update my services, but I’ve missed some auto start fixes etc., where I updated and started the updated service manually, but then next power loss it didn’t start properly.

      Now I try to make sure I reboot once a month when it’s convenient for me to fix issues to make sure all updates are applied and tested. And of course kernel updates like you say.

  • Zink@programming.dev
    6·
    8 hours ago

    The biggest difference with updates isn’t even being forced vs “when I say so,” even though it does matter.

    The biggest difference for me is the whole “be good at the thing you were made to do” aspect of Linux and FOSS. I never have any hesitation to update my computer, because updates are fast and unobtrusive. At work I will run an update check in a terminal in the middle of a Teams meeting while I also have code building in the background using 100% CPU. No issues.

    • ulterno@programming.devEnglish
      0·
      1 hour ago

      I tend to download separately and then close everything right before install.
      The install takes 2-5 minutes and I can reboot and resume my work.

      Windows 7 was the last Windows in which I could do something similar. And even there, the install + reboots were going to be 30+ minutes.

  • saart@jlai.lu
    241·
    14 hours ago

    Please do reboot your linux, that’s needed to upgrade your kernel.

      • lawks@aussie.zone
        9·
        9 hours ago

        That’s generally bad advice. Only some flaws get CVEs & livepatches. There are plenty of other kernel changes that bring stability, features, and fixes for less severe flaws, which can only be utilised with a reboot. Some systems have onerous uptime requirements and that trade-off is worth it. Most servers are better off rebooting as soon as practicable. If you cannot afford reboots, your problem is more likely insufficient redundancy.

    • bmpvy@piefed.socialEnglish
      61·
      15 hours ago

      can I get this meme in a “Linux Mint is easy to use for a regular user”-Version pls

      • Buelldozer@lemmy.today
        2·
        5 hours ago

        LM is so damn easy to use that my 76 year old tech illiterate boomer father uses it as his daily driver. Yes I had to install it but that only took a half an hour and it’s been chugging away just fine for nearly 3 years now.

        • Zink@programming.dev
          4·
          9 hours ago

          I absolutely love Linux Mint. But then once I tried regular old Debian with KDE Plasma, I knew that was home.

          • Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            1·
            8 hours ago

            What’s the difference? Isn’t there this new fancy gui for mint coming up too? So many questions, would be glad for hints and tips!

            • bmpvy@piefed.socialEnglish
              1·
              3 hours ago

              that’s* exactly what I’m using but I can’t tell you anything why it’s good or better. It’s just “easy” to configure, to use, idk. It’s probably a Linux setup like (almost) all the other ones, but I just stumbled across it and settled 🤷

              *debian stable with kde plasma

        • bmpvy@piefed.socialEnglish
          5·
          12 hours ago

          hahaha fr!

          (full disclosure: I’m using debian myself rn but I want to get my folks to switch to Linux and figured they would like an easy start. And Linux Mint is fine Linux, all the haters are just poser hehe)

  • DupaCycki@lemmy.world
    10·
    13 hours ago

    I feel like in this entire discussion, people almost always forget Windows actually costs money, and quite a lot of it.

    Even if Linux-based OSes weren’t superior in every possible way… they cost nothing versus Windows 11’s $139 USD price tag.

    Linux doesn’t even need to beat Windows at everything to win. And yet it still does.

    • Buelldozer@lemmy.today
      5·
      5 hours ago

      Almost no one actually buys Windows as a standalone product. If you purchase a new PC from HP, Dell, Acer, etc it comes with it. If you have a Win10 PC or license then Win11 is a free upgrade. The are even several Microsoft 365 SKUs that come with Win11 licensing.

      You can literally d/l it direct from Microsoft and run it without a license; you just have to deal with a small licensing message and a few inconveniences in the UI.

      The only people buying it as a standalone seem to be business idjuts who went to a store and bought a retail PC with Win11 Home that then find out they need Pro in order to Entra join / AD join the hardware. Those people deserve what they pay so I have no sympathy for them.