I’m surprised they even noticed, trans men don’t tend to exist to these bigots
They were going to cause a problem no matter what the outcome was. Ignore.
Of course they are because cruelty is the point.
Looks like it’s been misreported as one male saying in the locker room “there’s a girl in here” and others saying they felt uncomfortable with a girl there. The school say there’s more to it than media covered. Suspending a group for 10 days for expressing discomfort wouldn’t be valid, but obviously that’s not what happened
They get triggered if the wind blows the wrong direction. Fuck em.
Everyone else surprised that a school district would take any action at all against any bully, let alone one bullying a trans student.
Taking action isn’t too surprising. Not also suspending the bullied student because of some stupid 0 tolerance bullshit is more surprising
This has gone too far. Conservative media has just become purposeless cruelty. Bullying in any form shouldn’t be allowed in school. Its obviously not only inhumane to allow that shit but its a liability for schools.
When was it not? Rush was pretty mean back in the day.
Nobody in either of my kids schools get bullied. It hasn’t been an issue for 20 years. It doesn’t take a lot of effort either. Kids just don’t see the point, they have better things to do.
If you make an effort you can shut that shit down.
Edit: lol Lemmy quit being reddit. Downvoting this is sad! Seriously the kids don’t bully each other, they have been taught to help each other, and tolerate each other. That’s the effort.
So downvoting this is like saying: but we like bullying!
The world could be better, but people will downvote that idea.
Nobody in either of my kids schools get bullied. It hasn’t been an issue for 20 years.
Maybe your kids went to a unicorn of a school, but most schools have some sort of bullying problem, whether it’s about queer issues, race, economic status or even just an ordinary name. If the school allows it, bullies will exist and find something, anything to bully passive kids over.
I agree. I am just saying it does not have to be that way.
That’s not how you worded it. You sound like you think bullying only started recently with trans students.
Lol what? I never mentioned trans students at all.
Spoken like every school admin and parent turning a build eye to bullying right in front their faces ever.
No. The opposite of that.
The schools make a safe place to go to school part of the curriculum. They do not turn a blind eye. They also don’t threaten punishment, but encourage inclusiveness. Of course that is WOKE now so most other schools are going to ramp up the bullying.
I talked to my kids and their friends many times over the years, and was surprised because it is so different than what I had.
They just don’t even see the point in harassing anyone, it has no value to them, and they never get harassed either.
And then everyone started clapping
More likely your kids and their friends were the bullies. That’s why you never heard about it lol
Whatever. Actually I was asking them because they very much are the kids that might have been bullied.
I get it, nobody wants it to go away or be addressed. If someone like me says it can be better it’s jokes and no it can’t.
And that’s why it is a problem.
Good for your kids I guess. That experience is not universal. My nephew has had repeated issues with it.
No its not universal. Its depressing other schools won’t make the effort and I only said it because I am hoping people realize it doesn’t have to be this way.
A school, parents, and community can try and focus kids attention on being better. But they don’t. Hell many communities and parents are becoming worse.
I got involved because I had good reason to think my kids would have been targets.
Edit: I am not stupid, I know it occurs, but it is infrequent. They schools make equity and inclusiveness a cornerstone of education. Well at least they did, who know what will happen now.
No. Down voting is disagreeing with bullying hasn’t been a thing for 20 years. Many people here have been bullied in the last twenty years. Heck, at my kid’s school there was a bullying incident that caused quite a stir a couple of years ago. Unfortunately, the district no longer has any tools to deal with it if the restorative justice model doesn’t bring all the parties to the table. The parents, from what I hear, said it was a boys will be boys thing. And I know of at least one person who withdrew their child in no small part due to this.
So I agree that bullying is probably way down from when I was a kid, but to say it isn’t a thing because you have no awareness of it is a little self centered.
I am not saying it doesn’t exist, I don’t want to imply that.
What I was trying to say, is it doesn’t have to. Maybe I should have made that more clear. The schools my kids went to made it a priority to make it go away, and they succeeded. They did what you do with all kids, you move their attention and reward the good behaviors. They have a large age difference so this spans many years.
It is so depressing that other schools throw up their hands and just say kids will be kids. My whole point wasn’t to say it doesn’t happen, but that it CAN be better.
In the video, which became public in May, one boy can be heard asking, “There’s a girl in here?” Another adds, “Why is there a girl? I’m so uncomfortable there is a girl.” Their comments prompted another boy to insist that the trans student leave.
Right wingers see a video on line and assume it’s the full story and get their collective panties in a twist. However, the school district, which cannot legally release any detailed information about the investigation and punishment had this to say:
“At no time would LCPS suspend a student simply because they expressed some kind of discomfort. A reading of our Title IX resources should make it clear that there is a high bar to launch a Title IX investigation and an even higher bar to determine a student is in violation of Title IX.”
I’m thinking this went a little bit further than a couple students whining and must have turned a fair bit worse.
Knowing how a good amount of these kids are raised now by right wing assholes, it’s fair to assume thing turned a LOT worse
And right wing iPads. They’re absorbing some really terrible stuff without supervision, or even with mild supervision and guidance it still gets through.
And blocking kids from those platforms isn’t the answer.
Edit: /s
I got in to two separate arguments on the internet over this today.
The kids should be free to participate in all platforms
Edit: /s
My opinion: no. Children under certain age have no capacity to detect malice or disinformation when interacting with others, especially adults and algorithms bent on harm.
Hell, most adults probably aren’t. But as long as a child has a guardian, it’s the guardian’s responsibility to teach, guide and protect.
Letting a child lose into the internet is harmful, just like letting one out into a city.
I don’t think age verification is a particularly good tool to enforce that, but I don’t know what is, on a societal level.
I do agree with the stated goals tho.
It’s so weird how I agree with you, yet I’m the one with the downvotes here. Just because I’m being sarcastic? I don’t think so. I think they are reactionary and just pissed that what I says aligns with the option platforms are taking.
I agree with this. I don’t think any of the legislation put forward, in multiple countries, with the stated goals of “protecting the children” are actually meant to protect the children. If they were I would indeed support them because I have watched friends struggle with their children. But I’m not entirely sure legislating this problem away is even possible.
But parents I know can sit right next to their kids while they have screen time and some of the stuff that gets sent to their children’s devices is questionable. It’s a lot of emotional and mental labor constantly on parents to course correct some of that sometimes sneaky content. And this is a dual working home who are already stretched thin on time and energy. And banning the older children from devices altogether is pretty much impossible because of school and peers.
I saw a post the other day and it made a valid point. When we were kids there seemed to be a lot more sites with games and stuff geared toward children like Neopets and I remember Gaiaonline fondly. Were there some questionable things? Sure, it was the Wild West of the Internet and I had like zero and I mean zero supervision online, but there just seemed to be more stuff explicitly for kids. Games, interactive educational sites, chats and forums. Not just “versions” of things for kids.
Perhaps I am missing something? Someone please jump in if I am misguided on the apps and sites available today. I would gladly pass that info along to some pairs of parents I know.
I was being sarcastic. I’m surprised no one noticed.
Usually it’s “fuck this! Parents should do their job!” Around here and in gamer/tech nerd spaces. And that aligns with the sarcasm.
Holy shit, the unhinged right are masters of making themselves out to be the real victims. What fucking chodes they are.
Crybullying is a tactic we let work far too often.
I dealt with them enough people that my response to crybulling is to laugh in their face and dare them to throw a punch. Which is surprisingly effective when you are a five five dude who pulls off the wildman look quite well.
lol I read cyber bullying, whoops
And the “left” is sitting back and allowing their country to be steamrolled by these fucking chodes. It’s embarrassing, really.
Oh my god receiving consequences for being a shit head violates my 1st amendment rights!!!
Fuck them.
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First amendment absolutely applies in public schools.
Depends on the situation, but schools act in loco parentis, assuming the responsibility of the parent while the child is in their custody.
The legal argument, which has been upheld by courts, is that parents don’t have to respect 1st amendment rights regarding the discipline of their children, so therefore schools don’t either.
And it makes sense if you think about it. A kid shouldn’t be able to disrupt class, sling racial slurs, verbally assault another student or teacher, etc. with impunity. The situation in the article is a prime example of this.
I also found out the hard way that they don’t have to respect your 5th and 6th amendment rights either, as I was questioned without being read my rights, and that was used against me in court.
Have you seen the courts lately? they’ve turned themselves into a farce with ever more flagrant anti-constitutional rulings. Citing them doesn’t hold the gravity it once did
This isn’t a ‘lately’ thing.
Won’t stop them from playing the victim.
Frankly, I’m surprised this even happened. I couldn’t care less about how this makes MAGA feel. I’m just glad the kids were seen and those that could- did something to protect them.
As usual, the cruelty is the point!
School bullies are tolerated for the same reason police tolerate the proud boys. The Christian agenda is to raise their kids to be Christian Soldiers terrorizing Queer kids and we’re apparently supposed to go along with letting it happen. Fuck that.
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You seem to be very convinced that the weapon hoarding 2nd amendment people will lose…
are you referring to socialists and communists and anarchists? because we love guns over here.
The old joke is that if you go far enough left, you get your guns back.
Trudat, Comrade.
Yeah but the human shit stains will just recede back into the woodwork before they can all be identified.
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