I didnt realize i got banned from several communities on a singular instance because i was “rowling stan”, in reality i was telling people that you it’s mentally unhealthy wishing death on people even public figures.
https://sh.itjust.works/post/61133592 original post you’ll have to check my modlogs on what got removed.
im actually concerned that these lemmy communities are being insular and promoting mentally unhealthy behaviors like being hostile to someone saying wishing death on public figures is bad.
I dont have an answer on how to tackle the problem since I dont know these people, but they should be encouraged to be more vulnerable and we should meet them with compassion and understanding.
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This post is not related to this community (you linked to a post from the other 196 (the one with letters, not digits)).
This discussion belongs on PTB; please continue it there.
Uhm it actually is related to this community because I’m asking y’all to help other 196 communities… Go ahead be hostile
The online trans community is one of the most toxic there is, and it’s well and thriving, don’t expect them to ever touch rational discourse, that’s not allowed in their little club.
Yeah, a great many trans folk (particularly trans women) are very much engaged in a war of survival. Jk Rowling is essentially an enemy propagandist with enough money to buy hormones for all the out trans people in Europe and north America for 10 years.
Whether or not it’s mentally healthy is beside the point. She’s a fucking children’s author with more money than god who uses her obscene wealth to bully one of the most marginalised groups of people and encourage their persecution. I would not be surprised if her vitriol has directly lead to a few suicides or murders.
So yeah, wanting her to end her own life is perfectly reasonable and understandable.
Yeah it’s still mentally ill to go around wishing people would kill themselves
On principle I agree that wishing someone would take their own life is not healthy, but there are exceptions to every rule. There are probably quite a few people here who have lost someone close to them because of bullying by people like Rowling. Not to mention that people like her have turned occasional acts of aggression and ridicule by particularly nasty people into institutionalised violence and persecution. She has contributed to making transphobia a default government position in many previously tolerant countries (at least more so than today). And as the self appointed queen of the transphobes, she deserves to reap what she sows.
Lol you you threw in an unnecessary “but” 🤣
Of course your but is just contradiction to you saying you accept wishing people would take their own is mentally unhealthy; meaning you believe it’s okay to celebrate “kys posts”.
If you want carve outs and exceptions go for it, I make people lose their shit as a hobby (lose their shit over what they believe). I just moved on because I got tired of seeing men struggle to communicate and to be honest with themselves.
Men get mad over the stuff they can’t do and don’t do the stuff the can do like seek help or give help. These “kys posts” just are actually harmful and isolating
So you’re failing to win an argument with a trans oriented com and just decided to go with “I was just trolling”? You clearly don’t have a clue what you’re talking about. This goes way beyond a difference of opinion for one of the groups involved. Genuinely if this was just some rich skank arguing about immigration policy or healthcare reforms or something nobody would support killing her. But the vast majority of people here hate her more than you hate deodorant and soap. She’s spouting rhetoric that’s directly inciting violence against us.
Also what’s with the man shit? Does internationally misgendering internet strangers make you feel better about your trouser situation"? Why don’t you go ahead and tell wizard mommy what a good lackey you’ve been. You never know, she might reward you with some feet pics!
I don’t want to argue with any trans community. If you read my post I’m trying to get these 196 Lemmy communities to actually help each other.
But you and everyone else is putting it on your grandpa’s life/grave that there’s nothing wrong with liking and celebrating “kys posts”
But you and the rest of this community with I think 2 exceptions (at minimum) proven to be a cesspool of hate and hostility and I actually enjoy saying that to your face and I’ll enjoy it more if you took my warning and start a journey towards positive behavior
“public figures” is doing some heavy lifting for JK Rowling, a very shitty human being. You aren’t winning any favors going to bat for a hateful billionaire.
Many lemmy instances are very queer friendly and you’ll be shocked to find that that community especially does not like her. If you don’t understand why, try to learn. I promise you it isn’t for no reason.
So you not understand the term public figure?
I do. You intentionally made it vague to garner more sympathy. I’m highlighting that fact
No public figure is descriptive term. It means someone that is very well known or makes public appearances. Also I said jk Rowling by name so I narrowed it down to a singular person so idk how that’s vague.
Go ahead keep making excuses. I doubt they’ll ever get the results you want
You said “Rowling Stan”. I probably should have picked up on it, but it took me looking back at the post to figure that out. That point is less relevant.
I’m actually happy you admitted you small mistake. It makes me feel like you can adapt and grow as a person. 🙂
I actually like seeing change in people.
Admitting fault isn’t growth if it’s something regularly practiced. I stand by the rest of the sentiment.
That’s actually a healthy mindset and I agree.
I just have actual hope for you given how everyone else is on a war path over an admittedly small issue.
I actually don’t care too much about celebrating death threats. It really is about their mental health and trying to pursue more positive and productive routes
Being a “shitty” or perhaps flawed human being is the baseline. It is good that you at least recognize her humanity. Can you not also recognize that no human deserves death for the words that they say, no matter how flawed they or their words are? Can we not agree that it is not in anyone’s benefit to have hatred and bloodlust in their heart?
If she doesn’t recognize a trans person’s humanity, why should they recognize hers?
Great that you bring it up. I just joined Lemmy because I thought it would be less polarized and normalizing of violence than reddit. If this is indeed as bad as you say, I will look elsewhere.
The point of Lemmy is that here you can drop one instance because of its rules and join another instance without having to lose your communities
OP was banned by one instance and telling us about it from another instance connected to basically the same people. Single instances are powerless, they can’t silence you effectively here.
Hmm. That is interesting. So mods are essentially far less powerful on Lemmy?
I’m not sure if “mods” are the ones managing communities, while instances are managed by “admins” or similar.
On reddit, sub mods can ban you from their sub, and reddit itself is the single instance with its own guidelines which can get you banned from the whole platform, with the possibility that in the future we’ll need identification to login, so creating multiple accounts might even become something of the past
Lemmy is a protocol, every instance should be seen as its own small reddit, which can behave like reddit, however all these reddits are connected together so even if one provider manages to ban you and your multiple accounts on that instance, it has no legal responsibility on your activity on other instances. There is no central Lemmy authority that could be legally compelled by the laws of one country to have specific moderation policies.
If somebody’s behaviour is terrible, like idk fascist propaganda, they will be banned by every instance, except those with inactive moderation or fascist admin/moderators. In this case, other instances can (topically collectively) decide to sever the federation to those instances. Thus, a general ban on individuals is possible, but only by a collective effort of people who have otherwise no legal obligation to each others
Yes, especially since you can have multiple copies of the same community on different instances. If someone doesn’t like how I run !nwsl@lemmy.world , there’s nothing I can do to stop them from creating an NWSL community on sh.itjust.works or sopuli.xyz or one of a million other instances and running it however they want. The fediverse is designed so that there is no central authority that can stop you from outputting whatever you want; there are only tools to prevent that output from reaching a given user, community or instance.
i think you could enjoy lemmy. just have to do the more nieche stuff.
idk about polarized is the right term, but the people that get banned on reddit do come to lemmy and you can see why they got banned on Reddit, but if you well adjusted enought they probably leave you alone
