• Smoogs@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    genZ: a note from genX(we survived the uncanny valley of polar express) dont tell them HOW you can tell. theyll just take it as notes to try again. stay disillusioned and let them keep failing. you owe them nothing. no enemy more vicious than apathy and anyone plaigerizing deserves as much. this is what drives our nihilism.

    • chattre@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      4 months ago

      absolutely!! can almost always tell or at the very least suspect when something is AI-generated and it’s very offputting. makes me less likely to engage with whatever it is

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        4 months ago

        I don’t spend lookin at ads and what not. I do look at isthisAi at time but that’s all. But i am curious if this is really true or just made up.

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        4 months ago

        Exactly. I mean, I’m sure I’ve seen some GenAI imagery that I didn’t notice as such but a lot of the time, it just immediately trips some subconscious uncanny valley detector

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        4 months ago

        I can tell and I’m way older. If I had to guess I would say most with a science background or training involving critical thinking could tell easily, because from what I’ve seen the most susceptible groups judge an image with how much it aligns with their worldview and not objective reality or apparent image artifacts.

        TLDR: If people want to believe it is real they will, and if they don’t then they will not regardless of of it is real. Gen-Z are probably just more critical of sales media from being forced to view it.

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          4 months ago

          This probably makes more sense… people turning a blind eye to things they don’t like or believe in.

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            An interesting emergent behavior is people being wary of AI and questioning media openly is often viewed as an insult or undue criticism, as it is associated with dislike of the content itself even when that may not be the case at all.

            There have been a couple of times I was confused by the number of JPEG artifacts and questioned about the legitimacy of a piece only to be berated for it.

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          because from what I’ve seen the most susceptible groups judge an image with how much it aligns with their worldview and not objective reality or apparent image artifacts.

          My mother in law is extremely right-wing Putin aligned.

          Early in the Ukraine war (before AI images really became a thing), she was showing us MS-paint level image edits of a (black and white) WWII tank trying to roll over a (color) baby with a (color) Russian (super?)soldier holding the tank back with his bare hands to prevent it. She claimed this was proof of Ukrainians killing Russian babies, claiming it was a real, unedited photograph.

          That was seriously a terrible image edit. Worse than shitpost memes. It really did look like somebody threw it together in 2 minutes with MS Paint. But she (at least claimed to) wholeheartedly believe it was a real, unedited photo.

          This type of “it’s real if I agree with it” person will believe anything they agree with, no matter how egregiously wrong and stupid it is.

      • LammaLemma@lemmy.ca
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        4 months ago

        Only if I spend time looking at it. What the post says is that it is intuitive for genz. So yeah I can’t tell intuitively… only if I spend some time analyzing it.

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        4 months ago

        Lol… and that is why I avoid posting responses to istjisAI to avoid training the llms

    • vagrancyand@sh.itjust.works
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      4 months ago

      Gen Y, absolutely able to tell pretty much 100% of the time. It’s the lighting, sound, and depth of objects. Maybe current AI is confusing for really old people that just never used a camera or camera app on a phone, but it’s super obvious what is actually filmed and what is generated to look like something that was filmed.

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      I’m a 26 year old gen z and feel I get it right most of the time. If I had to describe it, everything ai touches has this corporate clip-art stock photo style over it. Even when it tries to mimic a different art style or real photos, something feels soulless about it.

      Something else, I used to believe that if AI images began to look good and it was used for hobbyist purposes that it might be fine. Despite this I’ve found that the moment I realize an image is AI I drop it in disinterest. It took AI for me to realize just how much the tiny details of art mattered; because if you look closely at an AI image all you’ll see is what’s statistically likely to be there unrelated to the subject matter.

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        I play a Tower Defense game with AI graphics (YouTD2). I hope it will be replaced eventually, it’s a lot of art and only a small project. The icons and actual towers look different, which is the biggest issue. Every tower evolution looks vastly different from the others, but it’s based on a WC3 mod and they’ve always been like that. There isn’t much competition for Open Source TD games. Fun game mechanics were more important to me.

      • keimevo@lemmy.world
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        As a younger gen-x I recognize similar numbers. And the 10% I’m not sure about is usually because there’s no people clearly visible in the picture. It’s like if our brains were trained from birth to detect subtle signals of something being human…

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      Yeah. I mean I’m pretty sure I can’t tell 100% when the subject is like, just a neutral photo of someone.

      But the product people always have the worst, most garish taste in images, making it easy to tell - they don’t have the bare minimum of a photographer and artist between them and the slop, so the images are a tasteless person’s idea of art, all high contrast, vignettes, dramatic lighting from multiple angles like it’s on a film set etc.

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    4 months ago

    I’ve seen this “78%” figure thrown around but haven’t been able to find the actual source for it. Does anyone know? As far as I can tell, it traces back to the Reddit thread, but I also know that consumer reports aren’t always or even usually made easily available to the general public.

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      Well, as many people know, 67% of quoted statistics were made up on the spot based entirely on intuition. Unless a stat lists has a source, I assume someone made it up.

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        Based on the 67% you should rather assume every two out of three statistic without source are made up and take one in between at face value.

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        You are aware only of those generated images that you did recognize. It’s not like every image on the internet comes with disclamer for you to compare with and calculate your hit and miss percentage.

        I guess it applies more to some comments than original post though.

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          Guy is aware of his engagement falling 40% ,thats not survivorship bias LOL Its not a “oh these planescomewith holes here” problem, but a “sir we are losing almost half our planes”.

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    Rick Beato mentioned that his teenaged son is able to hear AI-generated music with 100% accuracy. I (dude in his late 50s) can’t do the same. It’s weird because I write software synthesis applications and I’ve always been able to tell (with 100% accuracy) the difference between compressed and uncompressed audio (even when it’s “lossless” compression), but whatever it is that kids are hearing with AI, it’s not that.

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        I can read the difference between a pure uncompressed .txt file, and a nasty compressed .txt file that was inside a (yuck!) .zip folder

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      I’ve always been able to tell (with 100% accuracy) the difference between compressed and uncompressed audio (even when it’s “lossless” compression)

      ???

      The data coming out of your DAC is identical with lossless compression

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          Or he does what most audiophiles do and look at the label/bitrate/price tag and say “Hmm, yes, that is of far higher quality”. Not saying that differences don’t exist, but I’ve noticed audio tends to be especially rife with people who claim to be able to hear differences where they should not be humanly perceptible and will fail blind tests time and time again.

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        The demographic that used to rely on DNS/hosts.txt-based ad blockers and then switched to more integrated solutions like NoScript, uBlock, or uMatrix.

        Seeing ads (especially given how aggressive and ubiquitous they’ve got) is now just low key upsetting. All that bandwidth and processing power for distracting me while I’m trying to find something.

        I remember seeing a auto-playing video once on mobile, checking my data and it just ate 2MB of my 100MB monthly plan. Fuck, I was so angry, I blocked the entire site.

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    I’ve taught my gen alpha kids to accurately identify slop. I love watching corridor crew debunking videos with them.

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    First, GenZ haven’t been “kids” for quite some time now, granpa lol. Its Gen Alpha, and even then they’re getting older as well.

    Second, GenZ and subsequent ones are completely disassosiated from the commercial world. A huge chunk of them don’t like “commercial perfect”, pre-baked vibes. That shows with everything: the garbagy/shitposty anti-mainstream meme culture, the “ugly” haircuts, minimally branded clothing (only area where this doesn’t apply much is in music, since its kinda the other way around with how “mainstreamy” most music has become).

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        Yeah, the older most people get the more broad their definition of “kid” becomes. I’m almost 40 but I’d wager someone north of 60 would still consider me a kid, relative to their own perspective.

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        Am in my 20s, and still feel like we’re kids. We just happen to pay taxes now…