Its very disappointing that the outcome of capitalism and widespread enshitification is the need to have an adversarial relationship with nearly every company.
I only ever witness an ad on my computer when there’s something new that isn’t in my list of black listed domains on my pihole server.
In that case, a few clicks later they are on the “lol, no” list and I never see them again.
No smart tvs are allowed on my Wi-Fi. Instead they have tiny Linux PCs that let me watch whatever I please, ad free.
My mobile phone is graphene OS. My mobile browser has an ad blocker and works perfectly on things like YouTube.
News articles blocked by ads AREN’T when viewed via archive.is.
None of these things are hard enough that a beginner can’t do the same.
I DARE you to do the same.
Can count on one hand the number of TV ads that influenced me to buy a product. Those have gone the way of the dodo these past few years, so if I can’t surf away from them, I just mute them or fire up a console
Remember kids, advertising is just the graffiti of the rich.
You owe the companies nothing. You especially don’t owe them any courtesy. They have re-arranged the world to put themselves in front of you. They never asked for your permission, don’t even start asking for theirs.
Banksy, Wall and Piece
Thanks for that viewpoint.
I live in a great city with lots of (standard) graffiti, and now wonder what regular graffiti is, as compared to advertising. The crying out of some member of the working class that they exist, I suppose?
Exactly, it’s capitalist propaganda. Advertising is indoctrination into a system that requires conspicuous consumption to continue to make rich people richer. Get a pihole, please.
Adnauseum for firefox (both pc and android), and PiHole for network-level. When my dad comes over, hes always surprised that his tablet’s crossword game doesnt have ads inbetween levels!
Firefox + uBlock origin, nextDNS + a shit ton of blocking lists, revanced, metrolist and now i forgot that ads even exist.
con:
I always get traumatised when I use a device that isn’t mine.And Privacy Badger
very traumatic, like how do you guys live like this?
Honestly I’m going to have to start asking them out aloud; “how do you live like this, and how can I help?”
I’ve done that plenty of times. I’d encourage you to do so too. You’ll be shocked with how many people you thought you knew say something to the effect of, “but I like the things that get advertised to me and I’ve clicked on a bunch of them and bought things from them! Why would I want to block them?”
I’ve even explained the whole thing about companies building flawed profiles on people and how governments and bad actors can use them as a reason to investigate you. This works with people I know and get along with well, but doesn’t seem to make any difference with others.
Barely watching TV or listening to radio and block ads online. I stop watching TV or switch radio off after the second ad segment and start an audiobook or use an ad free subscriber platform.
Whenever i go to my folks or in-laws, im always blasted by live TV which is absolutely rotten with ads
Same thing when I visit my parents. They effectively have a billboard installed in their home.
SponsorBlock for youtube as well to skip ad reads, with unhooked to de-enshittify youtube as well.
Watching normal TV is jarring, just because I so rarely view non-pirated content.
Once you’re outside that bubble, the invasiveness is so much worse
Never used nextDNS. Idk, do they care about piracy? How do they make money?
They make money with paid plans, but there is a limited free one too, in my expirience it’s enough and they don’t care about piracy i think
Fuck unlock - try adnauseum and actively poison their data
I’il try!
I use adnauseum too, but ublock has its place since it performs better.
I recently tried. Sadly some YouTube ads came through. Could be a configuration thing, but to be fair, if the defaults don’t work as good as ublock it’s not worth switching for me.
That’s a good point, I’ve turned on the annoyances and other filters! It seems to be an overlay on ublock - uBlocks configuration is still accessible in the adnauseum settings
I’ve not had issues with YouTube personally but it’s quite possibly the cat and mouse game they have on their hands
Sponsorblock, too. It comes included in ReVanced these days, and even comes with SmartTube, an excellent ad-blocking YT app for android TVs. I am convinced that if I see another ad on YT, I will wither and die. Not today…
I just block them
One exception is I like some ads while watching TV shows/movies in a group. They’re a built-in break for me to run off an go to the bathroom, get snacks, etc. They’re still generally too frequent, but too many is better than none.
‘Too many ads is better than none.’
Damn bitch, you live like this?
you really can’t just hit pause yourself in the middle of a critical sequence?
Social implications no?
Like in the 2000s, the person who was the antsy-est and/or had the smallest bladder had an inarguable reason to take frequent little breaks.
(I’m not deciding for anyone that inviting marketers into the home is better than any other option, just saying!)
Well, you can’t pause normal TV, tbf
normal TV
It’s not been normal for a while now
Now streaming is normal, but about to be replaced by piracy
Yeah, but it’s annoying when there is a group and it paused it for everyone. There’s the social pressure not to.
that’s a fair point
Lol wut. Just ask your friends to pause or wait till the episode is over. A 45 minute episode without ads flys by because the tension / flow of the show is never lost artificially by some cringey #ad for whatever.
Just ask your friends to pause
I do. Ads are better though than having to pause repeatedly to go pee or refill water or to talk about the show.
wait till the episode is over.
Then the next immediately starts (long outro+intros solve that though). Also, no guarantee I can wait that long.
You can turn off autoplay.
For real. Every issue this person raises is easily solved without needing inject yet another Dove body wash or wingstop commercial.
But that’s the same problem with pausing.
I feel that. Sometimes I get lost in the sauce streaming on Revanced and then an entire day is gone. The old style of media had me at least question several times an hour about getting up and doing other things, now it’s easier than ever to just end up in a depression binge
I broke my friends tv last week trying to avoid ads
Really?!
You friend did not have a TV, just an ad platform.
You saved them, really
I was talking about this with my wife the other day. I just can’t understand how people are as OK with ads as they are.
I was talking to my girlfriend about this recently too. I forget where I first heard it, but someone said, “You have a right to your private mind. Persuasive ads are junk,” and I couldn’t stop thinking about it. Persuasive advertising is absolute junk!
No ads in my life except when i go into town. Difficult to block IRL ads… Yet
São Paulo in Brazil made advertisement on public streets illegal, and banned most types of banners, restricted the amount of logos etc to greatly improve the visual experience of the city. It’s definitely much better now than it ever was.
Now they just gotta take care of the pollution, increasingly vulnerable homeless population and neglected poor areas and then it would be paradise.
I swear when I mute the ads on YouTube, the skip button shows up faster. But probably just my brain playing tricks on me.
You need unlock origin on Firefox on PC and android, also newpipe app on android, no ads there
If you block ads from loading, you are using less processing power and thus less energy. Everyone should make the green choice of adding adblock to every browser. Save the planet.
That isn’t hostile enough, AdNauseam clicks them in the background.
I’m not sure I agree with that approach though. I get that the goal is to cost the advertisers money without benefit, but I kinda feel like contributing to that system at all is just encouraging them to do it more.
It provides junk data as well, which a lot of sites and advertisers use to sell to others. If enough people do it, then it becomes less profitable to do so since it because apparent there’s a deliberate attempt to obsfucate.
What if not enough people do it though? If you don’t reach that threshold, aren’t you just inflating the amount of data they have to sell?
NextDNS at the front in the router. Adblockerwon all browsers. SmartTube on the TV. Sponsor Block add-ons. What ads? The ads I ever manage to get are very non-intrusive and don’t interfere with my browsing experience.
and yet… Marketing is super important. If you’ve got a good idea, people need to know that it’s there, or else that idea won’t exist for much longer.
There’s a product that I knew about, and it was essentially a sprinkler system you fitted to your home radiator. The idea being that if the room got to a certain temperature (like, say, when the room is on fire), the water inside the radiator would get too hot and burst out of this little plastic thing on the end of the radiator as steam, dousing the fire. It wasn’t there to save lives of people in the room, because the room would have to be so hot that everyone inside would be dead, but it would stop the fire spreading to the next room.
They had lots of tests done, video evidence of it working, but nobody would buy it because they insisted on doing all the marketing themselves, and they were shit at it. The guy who invented it spent more time arguing in comment sections than actually advertising the product. If they’d hired a marketing firm to actually sell the product, they might have been able to sell it to more than a single council’s social housing stock. A lot of investor money went down the drain because of that project and because the ego of the inventor couldn’t be kept in check.
No
Bad dog!
I understand that there is a need to demo new products, but have you lived under a rock?
What you say I wouldn’t mind. I wouldn’t mind there being a website showcasing new products, or where I can type a problem and I get a list of products that will solve said problem. That, however, is not how marketing works.
Ads can roughly be cut into two types.
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Scams / bullshit new revolutionaey products that won’t do as advertised
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Companies blaring on about how their 5 decades old product somehow still is revolutionary and the best
Pretty much ALL marketing campaigns lie, either directly or by multiple omissions. They ALWAYS need to be intrusive, and it’s always about money.
Fuck the environment, fuck your health, fuck your safety, I have a fucking monster pickup truck to sell! LOOK HOW COOL IT IS!
I HATE ads, with a passion and all marketers on the bottom of the ocean would be a good start on making the world a better place
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Let me add to your rant with an additional pet peeve of mine: Usually when people rant about the advertising some smug assholes in the comment sections say “You think you are immune but it works on you, otherwise they wouldn’t spend millions on it”.
When did money become the sole metric with which we judge the merit of ideas? Did the billionaire who died in the titan submersible incident not shut up the crowd making such an argument?
I don’t understand what your argument is. As far as advertisers are concerned, money is indeed the end goal and ultimate metric of success. So if advertising leads to more money, that is success as far as they are concerned. The philosophical outlook of the consumer does not pertain to this argument. But I think I’m misunderstanding your point so perhaps you could clarify?
Near as I can tell, they are not so much advancing an argument as using this opportunity to complain about a tangentially related phenomenon. The point seems muddled since the efficacy of advertising wasn’t ever in question, but, basically, they’re just saying it grinds their gears when someone points out that advertising works as a justification for its existence. They believe that there are metrics to consider which aren’t “did the ad generate a sale”.
Could be I got that wrong, but I think that’s the gist of what they were saying. I, too, am a little confused, since no one seemed to be doubting ads work, despite consumer hostility, but, in their defense, they did declare up-front that they wanted to piggyback on this topic to address a pet peeve of theirs, so it’s not like we weren’t informed of their intent.
Most billionaires have certain skills but for the rest are unfettered idiots. The titan guy got exactly what he asked for.
The entire concept of a billionaire should be prohibited. Nobody should be able to have more than, say, 10 million dollars. Put a hard cap on that, any income above that goes to taxes. Fuck the rich
Also something being ineffective doesn’t mean people stop doing it, like homeopathy.
