President Trump’s executive order threatened to prosecute donors who support antifascist philosophy and issued a domestic terrorism designation that doesn’t exist under U.S. law.
There’s a word for anti-anti-fascist
President Trump’s executive order threatened to prosecute donors who support antifascist philosophy and issued a domestic terrorism designation that doesn’t exist under U.S. law.
There’s a word for anti-anti-fascist
So the lemmy.world mods are safe, and will now—because laws and rules—begin to silence all anti-fascist comments…
@jordanlund@lemmy.world, you gonna break the law, support fascism, or quit?
Feel free to read the modlog before you think you have an opinion on Floo:
https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=13649790
https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=14403867
I dunno anything about a Floo user. My comment is unrelated to that topic.
Sorry about that, I assumed due to the removed Floo content below. I needed a shower after that one! Not even kidding!
I’m not too concerned about the Antifa thing because as I stated elsewhere in this thread and others, it’s not REALLY about Antifa, it’s a dog whistle Trump is going to use to go after George Soros.
https://www.adl.org/resources/blog/soros-conspiracy-theories-and-protests-gateway-antisemitism
At this point I think we can pretty much start the clock, probably in October? Definitely before Thanksgiving.
My question is, if people start being prosecuted for being “antifa” or, for their anti-fascist remarks/actions/whatever. Is .world gonna be a little bitch or are they going to allow it regardless of the risk?
Allow what? News articles about it? Sure, it was before my time on Lemmy, but when Trump goons were illegally black bagging people in Portland, stories like that would be allowed:
https://www.npr.org/2020/07/17/892277592/federal-officers-use-unmarked-vehicles-to-grab-protesters-in-portland
An action which was blatantly illegal on the face of it, but got WORSE when people figured out that the guy behind it, Chad Wolf (not a made up name), was himself SERVING illegally.
https://www.americanprogress.org/press/statement-illegal-tenure-acting-u-s-secretary-homeland-security-chad-wolf-made-compelling-case-senate-reject-nomination-says-caps-tom-jawetz/
What Lemmy will not allow is promoting or organizing violence. If you want a rebellion, this is not the place to talk about it. In fact, you shouldn’t be talking about it online AT ALL. It’s not secure, too easy to track, too easy to subpoena, etc.
We won’t allow the inevitable headline of “the deceased terroists organized on a platform called ‘Lemmy’.”
It was bad enough when one of our mods blew up a fertility clinic.
https://archive.is/UGjjx
I mean comments that are anti-fascist, not just news articles about topics considered by many of us to be about fascism.
Let’s consider trump’s ability to do stuff regardless of how a judge denies him. Then let’s imagine a world in the very near future where Trump goes full-McCarthy and people are detained just on suspicion of being or associating with “antifa.”
Now, if I post a comment such as, “I am antifa and I support overthrowing of the fascist US government”
Will you or will you not remove that comment?
Supporting overthrowing the government would be a call to violence and would be removed as above.
Do not call for violence on the Lemmy platform.
Call for new elections? Absolutely. Call for impeachment and removal from office? +1 Would upvote again. Arrests, prosecutions, and prison time? Yup, yup, yup. “RICO Act”? At least buy me a drink first.
Do not call for violent acts.
That’s how we got 1/6.
I didn’t call for violence. I called to overthrow the fascist government.
Voting, arresting, impeaching, are all things that don’t happen with a fascist government, so calling for those by name is a waste of time.
What’s the tea here 👀
I think it’s based on where Lemmy.world is hosted and there is a law that they can’t spread violence advocation or something so there was a lot of comments that were removed during the Luigi stuff.
I think it’s about this?
No, floo was telling other users to kill themselves and that was some of their least hateful comments.
Ah! Thank you for the context.
It’s not a reference to Floo. I have no idea who they are.
It’s a commentary on Jordan, and other mods, removing any calls for action against fascism that are any more extreme than standing on a corner politely voicing your opinion.
They argue that the instance would be liable—which has never happened. Now that any anti-fascist comments will draw the attention of the government, I am curious if .world (and others) plan to err on the side of caution—as usual—or if they plan to grow a pair.
Correct.
@jordanlund ?
Not here, I had them in !world@lemmy.world, someone else got them here. Their modlog is a horror show.
https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=13649790
https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=14403867
I received and reported a number of those comments. Not sure what that has to do with whatever’s being discussed here.
Sorry, my assumption based on the Floo comment below.
And can I just say… “Ick!” I had to go watch YouTube after cleaning that up!
Oh crap typo thanks
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