I mean, ideally we shouldn’t be just running celebrities but after 8 months of this shit I don’t give a fuck anymore. Mentally I am here:
If it works I literally could not care less. Clearly the people want vibes so let’s just give them the fucking vibes and deal with THAT issue when things aren’t actively on fire.
Whatever else Stewart is, he’s knowledgeable, charismatic, willing to fight for a cause, and DOES genuinely seem to give a fuck about the average person. That’s a damn good start at least.
And all of THAT is even under the assumption we get something at least vaguely resembling a normal election, which at this point I think is entirely dependent on when exactly Diddler on the Roof finally strokes out on the shitter.
I love Jon Stewart as much as the next guy. I think he could do a better job than Trump is doing, but that’s setting a very low bar. Surely there’s someone more qualified than comedy news host John Stewart.
Why the fuck are people so obsessed with celebrities? Elect someone actually competent for the job. Idiots.
It’s so cute that Americans think there will be a 2028 election.
Well, the Ukrainians elected a comedian and got a true leader.
I’d want someone to represent the populace, not the power. I’d want them to be competent in how society works more so than how money works. I’d want them to have both compassion and charisma. Changes should piss off the minority of the electorate, not the majority. Change should be progressive and forward thinking not the old…“How can we capitalize on this and produce a revenue stream?”. I don’t care if they are famous or not. That being said, I do like to be entertained. I am really tired of the sell, sell, sell business shit that goes on nowadays. Hell, you can’t even write and perform a nice pop song anymore without automatically having a new scent and a clothing line. Hawks everywhere, picking apart the dying corpse of mother earth.
A lot of people here are condemning celebrity in US politics, and I get it… but at this point in time we might need someone who is already famous yet consistent and trustworthy. Stewart has shown himself to be a good person for decades. He’s also politically informed, progressive, and whip smart.
We need a candidate who wants real change for the betterment of the working class. Somehow people thought that was Trump… I guess because he said he would be, a few times? And people were hoping hard? And not looking at his track record at all? Also racism? More importantly though: people didn’t think that candidate was Harris, who got pushed through by the Democratic party and ran an uninspiring campaign. Those people didn’t vote. Those people were excited about candidates like Bernie, who’s track record on class issues is indefatigable. Those people could potentially be excited about Jon Stewart tearing shit down for the actually betterment of the poor, and might trust that he would try.
That’s my read, anyway. A Mamdani could come along and stir up some real enthusiasm, but I think it’s harder for a no-name without a proven record to win a national election. Last time that happened we ended up with Obama, and people still feel burned by his lack of progressive action.
I’d normally say “hells no, stop electing celebrities!” but this is a person who is actually politically informed (savvy even) and at this point possibly bthenonoy person why might get the US out of this miserable shit it’s in and on to a path towards an actual representative democracy.
If anything, Jon Stewart might be the only person able to get the US to stop electing celebrities in the first place
So yeah, Jon 2028!
Can you stupid fucks stop worshiping celebrities for like FIVE MINUTES.
I don’t get how mindless our population is.
Stuart Colbert 28’! My fingers would break I’d vote so hard for that.
Why the fuck not
Eh, I trust Stewart’s motivations, but not necessarily his judgment. I listened to him interview Ezra Klein and Stewart fell for his neoliberal Abundance bullshit without any pushback of critical thought. I could see him getting led astray by some of the same Democratic hacks that destroyed the party.
Zelenskyy did it. Ukraine would no longer exist as a sovereign nation today if he didn’t; it would have been entirely annexed into Russia right now.
Exactly. In the US right now, only a comedian is capable of getting the joke. It works everywhere else it’s been tried. Vote Stewart!
Nice! How could I have forgotten this guy? Great reference
How did real life end up more grimdark than Watchmen?
Always has been.
I mean, Trump did it and he was a fucking TV clown. The bar is really, really, reaaaaaaally low for who can become the next US president.
Probably not. It’s pretty common in history that leaders that are great In crisises aren’t as great in peace times. But it doesn’t really matter because what Ukraine needed was the president they had.
It’d be a better analog if everything else Zelenskyy has done as president wasn’t eclipsed by Russia invading. Would he have been considered a good president if that hadn’t happened? We’ll never know.
He stepped up as a leader when his nation needed him. That is one of the best qualities to have. Anything else is just whatsboutism that can be applied to anyone.
Nobody is questioning his bravery or accomplishments, but peacetime politics require particular skills.
The US is in far from normal times. It may not be a military war (yet) but this sure as hell isn’t “peacetime”
The question is moot. He was the right person at the right time
Would he have been considered a good president if that hadn’t happened? We’ll never know.
A quick glance back shows very much no. However, he stepped up for the war.
I’m curious why you didn’t think he was a good president.
He made a lot of very popular moves between 2019 and 2022.
I don’t think Stewart has any desire to run for President honestly.
Jon could absolutely destroy anyone on a debate stage. Mainly because it’s a popularity contest, and he’s spent his entire life learning to be popular on screen and stage. He’s also a smart guy with great insight into a lot of situations.
None of that means he would be a good president. It’s a different set of skills.
The bottom line though, would he be better than the alternative? And I hear what you’re saying. Those nazi crack monkey’s put on a hell of a show, how could Jon possibly do a better job? I’m not sure, but given the option, I think I’d give him a shot.
I think the Jon for president thing is copium, but to be fair Jon does have two of the most important traits in a president: conviction and a good bullshit detector. Whether he’d be able to do the day to day work aside, there’s no reason to believe he wouldn’t be able to lead the country in a better direction in a big picture sense.
I think Jon would have the intelligence and humility to have very qualified, intelligent people to advise and challenge him.
My only concern for him is he would take it very seriously, and not be able to let anything go. He would burn himself out hard in 4 years.
most important traits in a president: conviction
And not in the way that Trump has convictions.
He would mop the floor at the debates but I’m not sure debates matter anymore. I remember “they’re eating the cats” not mattering as much as it should have.
Oh it mattered, it became a chuckle line used in memes that I couldn’t enjoy even at the time because I knew that his stupid, racist bullshit would not be interpreted in a normal way by most of the electorate.
Debates matter. Remember when Biden beat medicare?
I would say the most important skill is listening to experts, and knowing when you aren’t one. Jon has this down.
You don’t want a president who thinks they’re an expert in everything. You want one who knows that aren’t and is willing to bring experts in to guide them.
If Jon Stewart became the Ronald Reagan of progressiveness, I wouldn’t complain.
None of that means he would be a good president. It’s a different set of skills.
Of course. Current Mr President is clearly way more skilled at presiding.
He’s too conciliatory to win debates. He’d have to seriously change his personality because I don’t think he likes face to face conflict, given how he softballs interviews with asshats like Jeffries.
Watch him mop the floor with Tucker on Crossfire.
I remember seeing that and it was funny, but arguing Tucker on ethics is like arguing quantum mechanics with a microencephalic.
He softballs when he wants to get more guests. If he goes after every politician, they all run and hide. To see him actually debate you have to see him off his own show. He’s given very compelling addresses to congress as well.
And seriously, he’s one of the most popular TV personalities in the country. What you’re saying is you don’t like Taylor Swift’s music, so she must be a shitty entertainer. Maybe you’re just not the target audience?
