I don’t get it. Is the joke that most anime sexualizes underage characters and glorifies unhealthy relationships? Because that’s decidedly not true. There are all kinds of anime shows, it’s just a bias in what gets imported into western countries.
You’ve either only seen one single anime that so happened to not feature any of that stuff, you’re actually INTO that kind of stuff and don’t want to admit it, or you’re in extreme denial.
“No Game No Life” literally introduces you to its main female character, who I believe is like 11 years old, with a panty shot.
“My Hero Academia” has Momo, who is a high schooler who consistently has to expose herself to use her quirk. (With constant heavy cleavage for her hero suit)
Look, I love anime, and there’s no shame in watching it, but you have to admit that a lot of it is pretty sexualized and moreso with children. (Don’t even get me started on that whole trope of “woman who is a million years old but actually looks like a 4 year old” )
I do agree that Japanese culture is less prude than US culture, and the age of consent has been 13 in Japan for a long time (it was raised to 16 a couple of years ago). So that will bleed into mainstream media in a way that sticks out to Americans, but not because it was the intent of the producer to make the show sexualized - it’s just what life in Japan looks like.
In a similar way, while Americans are scared of nudity, they are desensitized to violence and put way too much of it in US shows. IMO, I’d rather let my kids see nudity than someone being shot in the head. But neither is the primary reason that I watch a show.
Ehh… i don’t agree prude has anything to do with actual sexualization of children.
I am the complete opposite of prude. Always have been. I love sex and openly talk and joke about sexual things. But sexualizing children is just wrong. A panty shot of an 11 year old to entertain the viewer is not okay.
As long as the character is an adult, show all the tits, ass and dick you want. Hell yeah! But not kids.
I’d like to point out that shows like My Hero Academia are aimed at highschoolers. I think the sexualization in MHA is not a big deal if you don’t watch is an adult.
Though I agree that panty shots of 11yo are too much even if we assume that the viewers are 11, too.
Living in Germany was eye-opening when I noticed all of the broadcast TV adaptions of US movies would leave in all of the nudity and sex, and cut all of the violence. The exact opposite from the practice in the US.
You’ve listed two shows that are popular with western audiences. There is a lot of fan service in shonen anime and for a while now that was the most common genre available outside of Japan. I think the vast majority of what’s currently airing has no fan service at all.
You’ve either only seen one single anime that so happened to not feature any of that stuff
Overall, most anime do not feature “that stuff”, so I’m really wondering if you’re the one that has only seen a couple shows and drew their conclusion from that.
you’re actually INTO that kind of stuff and don’t want to admit it, or you’re in extreme denial
What the fuck is this shit? Are you going to say that to everyone who disagrees with you?
Look, I love anime, and there’s no shame in watching it
I really don’t get that feeling from the rest of your comment. You’re painting a very generalized picture of the medium as a whole.
Even One Punch Man, a pretty benign series that avoids sexual topics, has Tatsumaki who looks like a pre-teen. I know she’s supposed to be older, but when I first saw get I thought she was supposed to be 8 or something.
Okay, I’m usually very bothered with female characters looking ultra-young, but Tatsumaki never registered as that young to me. I might have thought late teens at the earliest.
One punch man is a parody in it’s core though, I don’t know why people seem to take it so seriously. Even Tatsumaki can be read as making fun of the usual shounen loli character tropes, looking like how she does and being about thirty
There’s making fun of the trope, and then there’s actually leaning into it. I’ve seen the series and I’ve read the manga. It’s certainly getting leaned into.
That’s actually a pretty good take on it, yeah. I certainly don’t want to defend any loli coded characters further than noting the original parody intend there.
I know you’re correct about MHA, but it’s odd you chose that one as your example. To my observation, it has been far more popular with young women and teenage girls than men.
Versus something like Black Clover which has episodes clearly designed to entertain tropes of sexual harassment.
I don’t get it. Is the joke that most anime sexualizes underage characters and glorifies unhealthy relationships? Because that’s decidedly not true. There are all kinds of anime shows, it’s just a bias in what gets imported into western countries.
You’ve either only seen one single anime that so happened to not feature any of that stuff, you’re actually INTO that kind of stuff and don’t want to admit it, or you’re in extreme denial.
“No Game No Life” literally introduces you to its main female character, who I believe is like 11 years old, with a panty shot.
“My Hero Academia” has Momo, who is a high schooler who consistently has to expose herself to use her quirk. (With constant heavy cleavage for her hero suit)
Look, I love anime, and there’s no shame in watching it, but you have to admit that a lot of it is pretty sexualized and moreso with children. (Don’t even get me started on that whole trope of “woman who is a million years old but actually looks like a 4 year old” )
I do agree that Japanese culture is less prude than US culture, and the age of consent has been 13 in Japan for a long time (it was raised to 16 a couple of years ago). So that will bleed into mainstream media in a way that sticks out to Americans, but not because it was the intent of the producer to make the show sexualized - it’s just what life in Japan looks like.
In a similar way, while Americans are scared of nudity, they are desensitized to violence and put way too much of it in US shows. IMO, I’d rather let my kids see nudity than someone being shot in the head. But neither is the primary reason that I watch a show.
Ehh… i don’t agree prude has anything to do with actual sexualization of children.
I am the complete opposite of prude. Always have been. I love sex and openly talk and joke about sexual things. But sexualizing children is just wrong. A panty shot of an 11 year old to entertain the viewer is not okay. As long as the character is an adult, show all the tits, ass and dick you want. Hell yeah! But not kids.
Yes, I’m not saying that that’s okay. What I’m saying is that the majority of anime produced in Japan is not like that.
I’d like to point out that shows like My Hero Academia are aimed at highschoolers. I think the sexualization in MHA is not a big deal if you don’t watch is an adult.
Though I agree that panty shots of 11yo are too much even if we assume that the viewers are 11, too.
Living in Germany was eye-opening when I noticed all of the broadcast TV adaptions of US movies would leave in all of the nudity and sex, and cut all of the violence. The exact opposite from the practice in the US.
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Truly is…
There was a time, where the A team was made, where they went to ridiculous lengths to show that there was nobody killed.
MacGwyver had a no guns premiss.
Look through actual popular animes. Dragon ball is weird as shit.
So don’t watch popular animes. Just because most weebs are pedos and watch shows that cater to them doesn’t mean most shows cater to them
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You’ve listed two shows that are popular with western audiences. There is a lot of fan service in shonen anime and for a while now that was the most common genre available outside of Japan. I think the vast majority of what’s currently airing has no fan service at all.
Overall, most anime do not feature “that stuff”, so I’m really wondering if you’re the one that has only seen a couple shows and drew their conclusion from that.
What the fuck is this shit? Are you going to say that to everyone who disagrees with you?
I really don’t get that feeling from the rest of your comment. You’re painting a very generalized picture of the medium as a whole.
Even One Punch Man, a pretty benign series that avoids sexual topics, has Tatsumaki who looks like a pre-teen. I know she’s supposed to be older, but when I first saw get I thought she was supposed to be 8 or something.
8? Where did you get that from?
Okay, I’m usually very bothered with female characters looking ultra-young, but Tatsumaki never registered as that young to me. I might have thought late teens at the earliest.
One punch man is a parody in it’s core though, I don’t know why people seem to take it so seriously. Even Tatsumaki can be read as making fun of the usual shounen loli character tropes, looking like how she does and being about thirty
There’s making fun of the trope, and then there’s actually leaning into it. I’ve seen the series and I’ve read the manga. It’s certainly getting leaned into.
That’s actually a pretty good take on it, yeah. I certainly don’t want to defend any loli coded characters further than noting the original parody intend there.
Seeing her for the first time had me thinking “what is with this sassy lost child?”
I know you’re correct about MHA, but it’s odd you chose that one as your example. To my observation, it has been far more popular with young women and teenage girls than men.
Versus something like Black Clover which has episodes clearly designed to entertain tropes of sexual harassment.
Dan Da Dan is also pretty popular with the women in my discord friends group. Then I watched the first episode…
I don’t think something being popular with women should somehow be used as a metric for this.
No game no life is one of the best, fuck off you conservative prude.
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Yeah, if youkl look at the list of longest running anime, it’s things like Sazae-san and Doraemon, which have almost no appeal to westerners
Wrong
Also, rave culture has nothing to do with drugs.