• Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world
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    Recently a cop died in my city. The news was like “officer died on duty while responding to a robbery”.

    Turns out the fat ass died of a heart attack in his cruiser while parked outside.

    Now the city police is painting him as a fallen hero who deserves a state funeral paid by us. Meanwhile I lost 5 of my coworkers during COVID, working at a hospital. Nobody lowered a flag or gave them so much as a mention in the newspaper

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          Definitely not the cops lol. If I called the cops when I lived in the US they’d open fire. If I called them where I live in Mexico I’d have to bribe them.

          Despite what Americans think many parts of Mexico are safe and no one locks their homes where I live so if I were to get robbed, of which I have absolutely no fear of, I’d take the camera footage and call my insurance company, same if I got in an auto accident. Having to call the police is not a thing outside of a police state.

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            I’m american living in tijuana for the last 10 years and literally everyone locks their doors in tijuana. Not only do they lock their doors, but any windows on the ground floor have bars on them, any walls around a property are topped with glass or pointy metal, and any driveways/car ports are gated and locked.

            Where in mexico do people not lock their houses? Asking for a friend.

            • You do know that the border is the worst part of the country aside from like where American gangs operate in Sinaloa right? And that most people by far live in the center of the country. To be fair you are right, like anywhere it is block by block and I was overstating it only because of the sheer propaganda I am exposed to about Mexico when I go back to the US, I edited my comment. [PII Redacted]

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          What do the cops do when you call them for a robbery or accident, which you do after the fact? Fill out paper work? Is that help?

          When my things were stolen from my apartment building,I had to call the cops to get a report number for my insurance. If I wanted it investigated further, I had to contact my apparent and ask them if they had video coverage of the area.

          I’ve never been in a car accident as an adult, but I understand I am legally obligated to report damage to a collision center. Do we need cops for that?

          Other interactions I’ve had with cops include them buzzing me from my apartment lobby OVER AND OVER AGAIN at 3 am instead of just leaving a massage when someone turned in my wallet that I had dropped. I had not dropped it late at night so I can only assume they were bored and looking for fun? I was absolutely terrified about what was happening. Eventually, they left and left a message and I went back the next day. No way in hell I’m going to my apartment lobby at that time.

          I’ve also seen them beat the shit out of friends and neighbours for various terrible crimes such as: existing while poor or attending protests. The only gun I’ve had pointed at me in my life was a cops.

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    So in response to cops stereotyping minorities, let’s sterotype all cops? Then let’s take that to the extreme and disrepect a dead person you know nothing about, for laughs.
    Even If you knew for a fact that the person in that cofin was a bad cop, does thier family deserve this image being passed around like this. No. One could understand if your motive was to help effect change, and crossing this line would help. But you are doing it for laughs and internet points. There is nothing good about that.

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    I don’t like police officers as a general rule. But I also don’t really advocate for death as a blanket statement. This is just a poor taste joke.

    Edit: Jesus, ya’ll can stop replying now. No wonder we have genocide, so easy to dehumanized others, and not even notice.

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            Fair enough. I guess my overarching point is that making generalizing statements like “all cops are racist” or “the victims of cops can’t stop being black” are harmful to the discussion considering there are also non-black victims of police brutality.

            I feel it’s better to say that there’s an issue with racism within the police force that needs a solution (which is one of the main points of BLM) rather than resorting to lazy slogans like ACAB that do nothing to further the discussion. The very definition of slacktivism

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              The problem is you have no way of knowing, and the consequences of interacting with a cop are frequently death or life altering injury. As a result you have to treat every interaction as of you are dealing with a racist murderer who faces no consequences.

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                So doing what any normal and intelligent individual would do when faced with interacting with cops? That’s not the ACAB I’m used to seeing being paraded on here.

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                  The point is that cops absolutely have the power to kick out the bastards from the force (they have strong unions and dictate their working conditions) and actively choose not to. They are all complicit and know what they signed up for.

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                  This very well may be Stockholm syndrome, or something close to it.

                  Just because you know what to do to mitigate your chances of being shot doesn’t mean that that behavior isn’t still shitty. Look into how police are trained. They’re trained like the military, only the enemy is civilians.

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              While people might actually say out loud that all cops are racist, what they actually mean is that the system is racist. Not all cops are racist, but they participate in a racist system. That makes them bastards.

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              Id say that’s definitely one of the core issues, but also the police’s core history as well. I do know that cops can do good things, but I’ll still stand with the ACAB crowd all day. Even though those cops can and do good things, at their core they’ve joined an organization that will protect themselves and the rich at the cost of us. That is undeniable. There is something categorically wrong with the police force in the US and likely most of the world.

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                This is kinda the problem with this reasoning though. You’d have to admit the police do more good than harm by maintaining some form of societal order and occasional brutality is only some consequence of it.

                I’d prefer to live in a world with bastards that maintain order than none at all.

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                  That’s what we’re talking about though. What they’re doing is not order. The police typically escalate situations that don’t need to be escalated, they’re prone to fear because it’s how they’re trained and they view us as criminals and assailants. They do not protect order for normal people, they protect order for those that have enough power and influence.

                  No one feels comfortable when cops are around aside from cops and the rich. You’re trading false security for your rights.

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      I agree about blanket statements and calls for death, but it looks to me like this meme is just calling cops trash.

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        Some people can’t accept that other people don’t respect the regime authority. Mocking pigs to some is in off itself is offensive so original commenter using generic “violence is never right” argument to justify his reaction of distaste for OP.

        You correctly observed that he misread the meme, just reflexively responded as a bootlicker.

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          Not really, I just don’t automatically wish death on people as a default state. They’re still human beings. You’re just trying to stir shit up for no reason.

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            There was no “wishing for cops death” until you brought it up. Everyone was just happily calling them trash until you came in here with assumptions and all this violent malarkey.

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                  careful NYPD gonna label you as an “extremist” this is even worse than celebrating a dead CEO parasite.

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                You’re extrapolating your own meaning from it, you’ve had 3 separate people telling you “I don’t take it to mean this” and yet each time you’ve tried to tell them how they mean it this way.

                You’re pulling info that confirms your bias and ignoring actually testimony from multiple sources otherwise.

                You can’t reason away other people’s thought processes to say they mean this, the best you can do is say, I took it as this, because of this, and I don’t like it.

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                Police officers (trash) are taking a dead police officer (trash) out of the building.

                Trash taking seats trash out.

                Trash taking itself out.

                There’s no death wishing here, just that if an alive cop is trash, a dead one still is. That’s the only thing being said here.

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            They’re still human beings.

            There is plenty of human beings that would improve the world by kicking the bucket.

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            You’re just trying to stir shit up for no reason.

            They are stirring shit up to, I assume, advocate for change.

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            That’s very likely the point of the post: to stir shit up.

            And there’s nothing inherently wrong with that.

            FTP

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      No wonder we have genocide

      Yes Israel is committing genocide in Gaza becuase Americans hate their occupation force 🤡

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      No one made such a statement, but thanks for the pearl clutching.

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      They’re human beings who have chosen to sell their body and will to the state to be used as a cudgel to enforce the state’s will through violence. We would prefer that they voluntarily stop participating in the oppression, but if they don’t they are willingly taking up arms against the disenfranchised, which means I have less than zero sympathy when they get what’s coming to them.

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        “The state’s will” in most cases is to stop a murderer or a robber or whatnot.

        People work for the police not to become the instrument of the state, but to prevent actual crimes. The rest sadly often comes after.

        Y’all acting like cops are just useless parasites - good luck surviving a week in a modern word without them.

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          People work for the police not to become the instrument of the state, but to prevent actual crimes.

          Poorly educated take lol

          They are legally and mentally the big dick of the law.

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            I wonder what’s your definition of “education”, then. I am familiar with several sources on anarchist theory, which is seemingly what you appeal for.

            Policemen are instruments of law, of course. But not having them means all laws become impossible to enforce - and I’d kindly like to be protected from murder, arson, robbery, assault, fraud etc.

            In an established anarchist society it is theorized to be possible to go without laws by various means, but our world is not that.

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              People become police because it is a job a with decent pay and provides authority.

              Police doesn’t “prevent” crime. Police protects property of the owner class and desrvea their needs. Sometimes they help a wage worker if it is not too inconvenient for them but they can also ruin your life.

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            In before times, crimes were easier to stop as people primarily lived in small communities and it was easy to find out and exclude people, which then often meant death.

            But even still, plenty of today’s crimes were rampant. As much as I’d love to see anarchism in action, this requires core changes to the structure of society, and we’re not at the point where getting rid of police will be a positive step forward.

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              Police doesn’t stop crime, it never has and it never will. You have to get this idea out of your head.