Now would be a good time for a reminder that there is no such thing as a moral billionaire. Scientifically, sane people retire to lives of luxury with their families long before they reach that level of wealth. The only reason to seek such wealth is out of a sick desire to control other human beings. Religiously, scripture says that there are no wealthy people in paradise. In the end, they all burn. Scientifically or religiously, you do not become a billionaire unless there is something broken in your soul.
I went to a religious school and the rationalizing the needle’s eye story was pretty hilarious. I think the message is pretty blindingly clear and doesn’t require a whole lot of interpretation but holy cow do Christians work to make it mean something completely different.
How has ‘what is moral’ come to be scientifically settled?
Different cultures across the world have different morals. Yet for this statement to be true, there must be an agreed scientific consensus on a quantitative metric and its impact on a fundamentally unscientific det of cultural rules.
The appeal to scientific authority in this statement undermines a good moral argument to be made about inequity and excessive individual rights to property.
This is just a call to some pop-science, at best, meant to engage the rage. It has no better scientific basis than trickle down economics does.
Do not put words in my mouth. I said nothing of scientific morality.
I said that different people work for different reasons. Sane people work to achieve the necessities of life, providing a means to support themselves and their families. Sane people, with healthy relationships and interests, value things other than work. Once you have enough to live in luxury for a dozen lifetimes, you are no longer pursuing things like friends, family, hobbies, etc. You are instead working primarily because you are a psychopath who gets off on lording power over others. The only thing that billions in wealth gets you is power and influence over others. That’s literally its only utility.
There are no moral billionaires. If you seek that level of wealth, there is something fundamentally broken in your soul. You need to be involuntarily committed to an insane asylum, as you are pathologically addicted to money and power.
Claiming a scientific authority that doesn’t exist and someone calling you on it, isn’t putting words in your mouth. Its a reaction to an unjustified claim to authority, that undermines that authority when it is actually appropriate.
It also undermines your own argument. Its good to see you’re reply shifted position.
Now would be a good time for a reminder that there is no such thing as a moral billionaire.
Honestly, the closest you come is Notch. Started making a game, got tons of streamer attention, hired some people to help with dev, eventually sold to Microsoft. That was the moment that he went from “made some money off his project” to billionaire in a single leap and also the point he functionally retired.
Has some shitty views, but doesn’t actually involve himself in politics so they’re just his views and not anything he’s actively pushing on anyone else. Despite those views, I still think it was shitty of MS to remove mention of him from his creation and not invite him to the 10th anniversary celebration of same.
The problem is that donating to normy billionaire charities just feed the beast. If Mackinzie or Notch or whoever really wanted to change the status quo they should, for instance, put all the money into strike funds.
MacKenzie could have taken all those billions she got out of Jeff and put it all into giving his workforce the resources they need to organize. That would have been the biggest F-you she could have given him and also the most impactful thing she could have done with the money, to our society. But she didn’t do that because she has Billionaire brain and will never see the workers that got her that money as being worthy of any support and instead she puts it all into bougie micro-lending banks probably run by consulting class assholes.
Yeah that’s really the one exception - people that win some sort of metaphorical lottery and overnight rocket from “can’t retire yet” money to billionaire over night.
Now would be a good time for a reminder that there is no such thing as a moral billionaire. Scientifically, sane people retire to lives of luxury with their families long before they reach that level of wealth. The only reason to seek such wealth is out of a sick desire to control other human beings. Religiously, scripture says that there are no wealthy people in paradise. In the end, they all burn. Scientifically or religiously, you do not become a billionaire unless there is something broken in your soul.
That’s why it says the oft misquoted “the love of money is the heart of all evil.” That “love” is the key part of that equation.
I went to a religious school and the rationalizing the needle’s eye story was pretty hilarious. I think the message is pretty blindingly clear and doesn’t require a whole lot of interpretation but holy cow do Christians work to make it mean something completely different.
How has ‘what is moral’ come to be scientifically settled?
Different cultures across the world have different morals. Yet for this statement to be true, there must be an agreed scientific consensus on a quantitative metric and its impact on a fundamentally unscientific det of cultural rules.
The appeal to scientific authority in this statement undermines a good moral argument to be made about inequity and excessive individual rights to property.
This is just a call to some pop-science, at best, meant to engage the rage. It has no better scientific basis than trickle down economics does.
Do not put words in my mouth. I said nothing of scientific morality.
I said that different people work for different reasons. Sane people work to achieve the necessities of life, providing a means to support themselves and their families. Sane people, with healthy relationships and interests, value things other than work. Once you have enough to live in luxury for a dozen lifetimes, you are no longer pursuing things like friends, family, hobbies, etc. You are instead working primarily because you are a psychopath who gets off on lording power over others. The only thing that billions in wealth gets you is power and influence over others. That’s literally its only utility.
There are no moral billionaires. If you seek that level of wealth, there is something fundamentally broken in your soul. You need to be involuntarily committed to an insane asylum, as you are pathologically addicted to money and power.
Claiming a scientific authority that doesn’t exist and someone calling you on it, isn’t putting words in your mouth. Its a reaction to an unjustified claim to authority, that undermines that authority when it is actually appropriate.
It also undermines your own argument. Its good to see you’re reply shifted position.
Honestly, the closest you come is Notch. Started making a game, got tons of streamer attention, hired some people to help with dev, eventually sold to Microsoft. That was the moment that he went from “made some money off his project” to billionaire in a single leap and also the point he functionally retired.
Has some shitty views, but doesn’t actually involve himself in politics so they’re just his views and not anything he’s actively pushing on anyone else. Despite those views, I still think it was shitty of MS to remove mention of him from his creation and not invite him to the 10th anniversary celebration of same.
This is the MacKenzie Scott defense.
The problem is that donating to normy billionaire charities just feed the beast. If Mackinzie or Notch or whoever really wanted to change the status quo they should, for instance, put all the money into strike funds.
MacKenzie could have taken all those billions she got out of Jeff and put it all into giving his workforce the resources they need to organize. That would have been the biggest F-you she could have given him and also the most impactful thing she could have done with the money, to our society. But she didn’t do that because she has Billionaire brain and will never see the workers that got her that money as being worthy of any support and instead she puts it all into bougie micro-lending banks probably run by consulting class assholes.
Yeah that’s really the one exception - people that win some sort of metaphorical lottery and overnight rocket from “can’t retire yet” money to billionaire over night.
He stole the source code from Hatsune Miku