The genocide is still ongoing and many things are still developing in Palestine, but we are removing the limitation on only posting things related to the operation Flood of Al-Aqsa to this thread, you can now freely post over Lemmygrad again.

Please don’t stop talking about Palestine.


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    Hezbollah has hit a major “Israeli” surveillance base. Short video here, longer one here.

    The Meron Base is responsible for organizing, coordinating, and managing all air operations towards Syria, Lebanon, Turkey, Cyprus, and the northern part of the eastern basin of the Mediterranean Sea. Additionally, this base is a main center for electronic jamming operations in the aforementioned directions and is staffed by a large number of elite officers and soldiers of the zionist forces.

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    من صنعاء العميد يحيى سريع يعلن مسؤولية الحوثيين عن استهدف سفينة إم إس سي يونايتد في باب المندب

    From Sanaa, Brigadier General Yahya Saree announces the Houthis’* responsibility for targeting the MSC United ship in Bab al-Mandab

    https://youtu.be/QOZm1JJ2IyE

    • title used in video, their preferred name is Ansar Allah
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    Even John Mearsheimer is calling “Israel’s” attack on Gaza a genocide.

    First few paragraphs of the article

    I am writing to flag a truly important document that should be widely circulated and read carefully by anyone interested in the ongoing Gaza War.

    Specifically, I am referring to the 84-page “application” that South Africa filed with the International Court of Justice (ICJ) on 29 December 2023, accusing Israel of committing genocide against the Palestinians in Gaza.¹ It maintains that Israel’s actions since the war began on 7 October 2023 “are intended to bring about the destruction of a substantial part of the Palestinian national, racial and ethnic … group in the Gaza Strip.” (1) That charge fits clearly under the definition of genocide in the Geneva Convention, to which Israel is a signatory.²

    The application is a superb description of what Israel is doing in Gaza. It is comprehensive, well-written, well-argued, and thoroughly documented. The application has three main components.

    First, it describes in detail the horrors that the IDF has inflicted on the Palestinians since 7 October 2023 and explains why much more death and destruction is in store for them.

    Second, the application provides a substantial body of evidence showing that Israeli leaders have genocidal intent toward the Palestinians. (59-69) Indeed, the comments of Israeli leaders – all scrupulously documented – are shocking. One is reminded of how the Nazis talked about dealing with Jews when reading how Israelis in “positions of the highest responsibility” talk about dealing with the Palestinians. (59) In essence, the document argues that Israel’s actions in Gaza, combined with its leaders’ statements of intent, make it clear that Israeli policy is “calculated to bring about the physical destruction of Palestinians in Gaza.” (39)

    Third, the document goes to considerable lengths to put the Gaza war in a broader historical context, making it clear that Israel has treated the Palestinians in Gaza like caged animals for many years. It quotes from numerous UN reports detailing Israel’s cruel treatment of the Palestinians. In short, the application makes clear that what the Israelis have done in Gaza since 7 October is a more extreme version of what they were doing well before 7 October.

    There is no question that many of the facts described in the South African document have previously been reported in the media. What makes the application so important, however, is that it brings all those facts together in one place and provides an overarching and thoroughly supported description of the Israeli genocide. In other words, it provides the big picture while not neglecting the details.

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    REMEMBER: the Occupier is unpopular the world over. People by and large stand with Palestine, even in the imperial core. The reason they are trying to outlaw protests for Palestine and supporting Palestine is because the ruling ideas are the ideas of the ruling class, and governments want to make their people think that support for Palestine is lower than it really is.

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      I managed to go to a protest. It was kind of an accident. I suspected something might be planned and went to the time, on the day, and to the place that protests usually happen. Maybe 200+ people there. Half dressed in Palestine flags. Speeches. Poetry. Songs. Messages passed from relatives in Palestine to share with us.

      I’ve been tearing up reading about it all this week. But in person? It was more uplifting than sad. Seeing so many people willing to spend their weekend doing this.

      I completely agree, Crit. There’s a good reason they don’t want us to go outside and connect with others, to see that we stand on the side of humanity and that history will prove us right yet again.

      The interesting thing was that the police were clearly supportive. I was a bit surprised to see them nodding along with the talks. They didn’t join in the songs and the chanting. But from conversations I overheard, they were supportive. I joined a bit late so stood to one side and I also heard ‘ordinary’ passers by – you know, people who aren’t engaged enough with politics to join a protest – walking past and talking about how bad things were for Palestinians. Seemed like almost everyone walking past was appalled at Israel.

      The public stands with Palestine and they know they’re being duped by the press. It lifted my mood significantly because all week I’d been given the impression from the silence of colleagues, my institution, my union, and the noise from the media that I was rather alone. Not so.

      From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.

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        How in the world is the public supportive of Palestine? If they aren’t supportive of communism and general anti-imperialism/anti-colonialism, how are they supportive of Palestine?

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          the situation in gaza is so precarious and israel commit so many crimes that is very hard to wash everything, so there is that notion that israel isn’t so nice, free and democratic so to speak

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          We cannot allow Amerikan “news” media to dictate to us where the masses are at. Zionist outlets want us to believe that the Amerikan masses are on board with ethnic cleansing writ large.

          I know otherwise reactionary people – coworkers, customers, etc. – who loathe the state of Israel for what it is doing. News media would have us believe that these otherwise reactionary folk are anti-Israel merely because they are antisemitic or some other such hogwash.

          This is a litmus test for basic human empathy, and I think more people are passing than failing. The Amerikan news empire does not reflect the will or the ideas of the people, it attempts to shape them. By virtue of their class interests, bourgeois “journalists” are always tailing us and tailing workers.

          Anti-imperialist journalists and their outlets like Abby Martin (Empire Files), Brian Becker (The Socialist Program), SomeMoreNews, MintPress News, Multipolarista, and more, are gaining traction and have been for a while. Paywalls and opaque anti-worker rhetoric are making rags like WaPo obsolete to the masses.

          We also can’t use astroturfed hellsites like Reddit to guage where people are at. Contrariwise, we shouldn’t necessarily use anecdotal grass-touching evidence as indicative of a larger trend, either. My experience on the ground has been far more akin to comrade @redtea@lemmygrad.ml than bearing witness to the countrywide cavalcade of [proletarian] Zionist warriors Western news media typically wants us to believe exists, though.

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    The zionists funneled the residents of Gaza at the Egyptian border, telling them that’s where they were allowed to escape.

    Then they bombed it.

    The world is literally watching a holocaust happen. Not just reading about it like in the 40s. But watching it. And liberals are either ignoring it or standing with the ones perpetrating it.

    Not a single person who stands with Israel should be allowed to forget what they supported.

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      Not just reading about it like in the 40s. But watching it. And liberals are either ignoring it or standing with the ones perpetrating it.

      They did the same exact thing almost a century ago. It was the Red Army who brought the Holocaust to an end, not the West.

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          One of the saddest facts that you can learn as communist about the history of the Palestinian occupation is that the settler colonial army was as successful as it was during the first few decades of its existence thanks to incorporating a large number of Red Army veterans with experience conducting operations on the eastern front in WW2…

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        The music festival was one of the most egregious displays of “civilian” settler disregard for Palestinian life I think is even possible. A literal rave on stolen land next to the concetration camp filled with the people they stole that land from. And that is what western media uses as anti-resistance atrocity propaganda.

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          Read a few interviews from their perspective too. They were all warned that militants broke out of Gaza a few miles away. The audacity to party right next to an open-air concentration camp is one thing. But they also knew there were violent disturbances.

          Can’t find the exact article at the moment, so feel free to help me out, but one survivor was quoted saying “This stuff happens there all the time.”

          Tinfoil time, but part of me almost suspects that the threat of an attack on the festival could have been underplayed by the IDF, just so they could have propaganda fodder.

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      USian here. I have never been more ashamed of this country. If this leads to a larger conflict i would like to live in another country to be on the receiving end rather than fight for this atrocious empire.

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    Biden first: ‘I totally saw images of beheaded babies!’

    White House statement now: ‘Biden did not ever see those images and they can’t be verified’

    Libs and others, if you are reading this, please support the right side of history. You are propagandized to hell the same way people were with Iraq, Vietnam, Cuba etc.

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    The framing of Ansar Allah blockade is completely wrong and needs to be rectified.

    It’s wrong to state that Houthis are threatening to attacking civilian ships.

    Instead, private shipping companies are illegally attempting to evade Yemeni sanctions against Israel.

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    Israel dropped 6000 bombs in the last few days. That’s as much as the US did on Afghanistan IN A YEAR. Afghanistan is 1800x bigger than Gaza.

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    Israel has threatened Syria and Lebanon if they enter the conflict that Israel will wipe them off the face of the earth, rumors of the US and Israel discussing joint action if things escalate.

    Not fear mongering or anything, but This could very quickly fall into a global conflict. Eyes on the news comrades.

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      Also a sad reminder the US gave Israel nuclear weapons and it is the known ‘unofficial’ but stated policy of that regime to use their nuclear weapons in revenge strikes should their regime fall or be in significant danger of falling.

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        Yeah, things went from oh boy hope the US and Russia don’t fight to, oh boy, I hope the entire world doesn’t nuke each other because Israel has to keep being an apartheid, like really really bad, in like 48 hours. Got whiplash at this point.

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    Context on the music festival:

    • it took place near the kibbutz of Re’im
    • Re’im is the location of the Re’im military base
    • the military base is the headquarters of the Gaza Division of the IDF.
    • even Wikipedia says the “Re’im Festival Massacre” took place during the battle for the Re’im base.

    Can’t imagine rolling face directly between the world’s largest prison camp, and the guards that kept them there.

    No shit the militants headed directly for Re’im.

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      Aight, I’m gonna call it, I’m done looking for sources for now.

      I don’t buy:

      • that the music festival incident was solely a direct attack on civilians.
      • that it was a slaughter with no fighting.
      • that the professional army that went through the festival ground was there only to intentionally target civilians.

      Every source seems to agree that there were 260+ bodies recovered, with no distinction between idf & civilians. That seems like a pretty low total from the 3500 that were reportedly there.

      I’ll buy:

      • that militants rolled through the festival and intentionally shot/hurt some number of noncombatants (clearly that’s bad, I’ll admit that).
      • that there was some sort of firefight/battle between idf/security and the militants.

      I’ve seen lots of video of people running and screaming, with shots in the background, but that’s it.

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        It’s hard to know what’s real but I saw a video of soldiers ducking and diving between the festival goers while shooting at Hamas.

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            It might be what’s discussed in the article linked below, because there seemed to be a tank at the beginning. Tbh the Israelis seem quite disorganised. It’s not like they’re grabbing civvies to hide behind. More like they’re just as scared as them. That would make sense for people who’ve signed up as security at a festival mainly to watch people dance, break up a few fights, and prevent unarmed people going on a stage. I don’t really know what uniforms the IDF or Israeli police usually wear, though.