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  • diegeticscream[all]🔻@lemmygrad.ml
    2·
    1 year ago

    Context on the music festival:

    • it took place near the kibbutz of Re’im
    • Re’im is the location of the Re’im military base
    • the military base is the headquarters of the Gaza Division of the IDF.
    • even Wikipedia says the “Re’im Festival Massacre” took place during the battle for the Re’im base.

    Can’t imagine rolling face directly between the world’s largest prison camp, and the guards that kept them there.

    No shit the militants headed directly for Re’im.

    • diegeticscream[all]🔻@lemmygrad.ml
      2·
      1 year ago

      Aight, I’m gonna call it, I’m done looking for sources for now.

      I don’t buy:

      • that the music festival incident was solely a direct attack on civilians.
      • that it was a slaughter with no fighting.
      • that the professional army that went through the festival ground was there only to intentionally target civilians.

      Every source seems to agree that there were 260+ bodies recovered, with no distinction between idf & civilians. That seems like a pretty low total from the 3500 that were reportedly there.

      I’ll buy:

      • that militants rolled through the festival and intentionally shot/hurt some number of noncombatants (clearly that’s bad, I’ll admit that).
      • that there was some sort of firefight/battle between idf/security and the militants.

      I’ve seen lots of video of people running and screaming, with shots in the background, but that’s it.

      • redtea@lemmygrad.ml
        2·
        1 year ago

        It’s hard to know what’s real but I saw a video of soldiers ducking and diving between the festival goers while shooting at Hamas.

          • redtea@lemmygrad.ml
            1·
            1 year ago

            It might be what’s discussed in the article linked below, because there seemed to be a tank at the beginning. Tbh the Israelis seem quite disorganised. It’s not like they’re grabbing civvies to hide behind. More like they’re just as scared as them. That would make sense for people who’ve signed up as security at a festival mainly to watch people dance, break up a few fights, and prevent unarmed people going on a stage. I don’t really know what uniforms the IDF or Israeli police usually wear, though.