In 50 years, women will return to the rightful place in the home. And we’ll all look at this and laugh at how silly we were being.
If “I sexually assault women all the time” isn’t a dealbreaker for you politically, no one is going to fuck you and they shouldn’t.
Just read the wapo opinion piece.
The gist of the piece, for those who will not read it, is that mixed political couples, while less happy than aligning political couples, are still happier than single people. Additionally marriage is good for society as this making your political party core to your identity will lead to more political polarization. Also this intentional separation leads to close-mindedness.
Basically, “it’s not good for your happiness nor your ability to be open to new ideas. It’s also bad for society, so maybe we need to rethink this” is not “bullying.” But labelling it that way certainly gets those outrage clicks!
Basically, “it’s not good for your happiness nor your ability to be open to new ideas. It’s also bad for society, so maybe we need to rethink this”
Ah yes fresh ideas like “we should have a treasonous rapist for president” or “maybe the party that doesn’t believe women are real people is for me” or “as a non-white cis male, maybe I have too many rights.”
If it were 20 years ago, maybe this piece would make a little sense, but republicans are full mask off now. I don’t know that I would call it bullying, but I would call a piece that unironically suggests women (or anyone) engage with these people incredibly naive at best, and in 2023, just downright stupid.
This post reads to me like the typical in-group out-group type of thinking where the essence of the entire “out-group” is boiled down to most hateful exaggeration of their position in order to (and in this case hypocritically because it’s what you are accusing them of doing) dehumanize them.
Nothing has really changed in 20 years. all those problems have always existed where the right wants to remove the right of abortion. Of course this has to be framed as them thinking women aren’t even people so they can be dismissed out of hand. It’s close mindedness, and it’s exactly the same I see from the right wing of my family. at least those who haven’t left the republican party since the rise of trump.
Don’t get me wrong, I do believe that there is something wrong with the modern day republican party where trump has been revealed to be everything they openly hated about Clinton (other than liberal), and yet they still support him, but closing yourself off to them and dehumanize them doesn’t solve anything, it just makes you more like them than you would want to admit.
This post reads to me like the typical in-group out-group type of thinking where the essence of the entire “out-group” is boiled down to most hateful exaggeration of their position in order to (and in this case hypocritically because it’s what you are accusing them of doing) dehumanize them.
Then your reading comprehension is low. They’re still human, I’m not trying to deny them basic rights, and I’m not exaggerating anything. Trump is a rapist. This is a fact. Trump is also the front runner for the Republican Party. This is also a fact. Trump maintains that massive support after he installed 3 justices which lead to the overturning of Roe and has led to a state where women have fewer rights. Even in cases of rape, where a women’s bodily autonomy has been violently taken from her, she may not be able to exercise control of her own body to abort. Republicans are arguing right now that women shouldn’t be able to voluntarily divorce. So yeah, for shorthand, Republicans don’t believe women deserve equal rights, and thus don’t believe women are the same amount of human they are.
Nothing has really changed in 20 years.
20 years ago women had bodily autonomy. Book bans were things we read about in school done by fascist governments. Vaccinating was not controversial and polio had been all but eradicated. White Replacement Theory was not on the most popular primetime “news” show. Mocking service members who lost limbs in war for this country was career ending. The list goes on and on.
It’s close mindedness
No, it’s not, and choosing to engage in these sorts of arguments in good faith is already ceding ground that simply should not be. One side: “I would like us to go to Dairy Queen.” Other side: “I want us to eat dog shit.” Side one: “no.” Side two: “you’re just not being open minded! let’s debate this great idea!”
I do believe that there is something wrong with the modern day republican party
Phew, that’s the easy, obviously correct position.
revealed to be everything they openly hated about Clinton (other than liberal)
I can guarantee you that none of these people could articulate a thing they hated about Clinton.
but closing yourself off to them
“Really need to check out this dogshit idea.” Tbh this is just the free market doing its thing. If I open a dogshit restaurant, I’d expect that I’d quickly go out of business. Republicans are choosing policy positions that are not only not popular, they pretty easily provably lead to worse outcomes for most Americans. Most of these things are not moral or philosophical debate. Speaking of, another thing that’s changed in 20 years - access to information. While you’re right Republicans haven’t really had good positions in my lifetime, they’ve moved to more extremes, and information about what they’re doing is more widely available. Like, there has been an undercurrent of racism in the party for a very long time, but it was easy to dismiss because leaders at least still spoke in dogwhistles. Trump is just flagrantly racist, and, again, still the front runner.
Anyway, this is the difference. Republican positions are to ban things and ideas they don’t like. Words like “eradicate” come up a lot when talking about other people. Listen to a trump speech, DeSantis speech, etc. They season them all with frankly genocidal language. The other side is “vermin.” This is what it means to dehumanize. You’ll find none of that in my comment. Republicans are human, just stupid or greedy humans. I don’t believe that they don’t deserve to exist, I believe they deserve better educations and economic outcomes so they stop holding such dogshit ideas.
You seem completely incapable of separating the one from the group. I understand, it’s much more simply to just say “they are all exactly like this person,” but it’s dehumanizing. That’s the whole point. You’re not looking at the human, you’re attempting to stick them all into a group, say they are all extreme, and thus dismiss them completely from your life.
Is this is unhealthy for you and for society, it’s right to point it out.
dehumanizing
You keep using this word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Sums the article up nicely:
Voting for Trump means backing a man who has been accused of sexual assault by two dozen women, and who a judge and jury deemed responsible for rape. It means backing the man who repeatedly brags that he got Roe v. Wade overturned. In addition, the MAGA media consumed by most Republicans is hardly neutral on the question of sexism. They are all for it, from the tired sexist jokes on Fox News to bizarre internet trends like “tradwives.” For a woman, marrying a Trump supporter isn’t about being with someone who has different views on tax rates. It’s bringing someone into your home who ascribes to an ideology in which you are not fully human.
Many of the Democratic women are former Republicans who switched because of Trump.
That hat would make for one hell of a headline.
Like the time Jesus and Moses used guns to conquer the Romans
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As a man, I’d never even consider dating a woman on the right, and there’s far less at stake for me than a woman dating a conservative. This idea that decent people should enter into relationships, romantic or otherwise, with shit stains is absurd.
Conservative women are fine as hell, but I see your point.
Lmao no they ain’t. You ever seen Marjorie Taylor Greene? I’m pretty sure she’s so vehemently anti-trans because people always mistake her for being trans, and that pisses her off. She doesn’t even look trans, she looks far far more like a man than any MTF could even if they tried, she’s just… a hairless gorilla.
I’m not even trying to body shame, I’m just saying she is definitely not aligned with societal standards for how women should look (not even close), and that’s something I see with a large amount of conservative women. There’s this one popular-with-conservatives woman on Twitter who’s name I forgot who just goes around saying how women should be in the kitchen and how we should genocide fat women, and it’s so clearly because she’s annorexic and extremely conventionally unattractive so she feels the only way to appease to men and seem attractive to them is to give up her dignity + shame others for not having the only “good” quality she sees in herself (being skinny). It’s kind of sad but this is probably the most common shtick you see with popular conservative women.
Seeing one person or even a few people that have a certain quality that are from a certain group doesn’t mean every person from that group has that quality. There’s a lot of ugly Republicans and a few attractive ones.
There’s this one popular-with-conservatives woman on Twitter who’s name I forgot who just goes around saying how women should be in the kitchen and how we should genocide fat women, and it’s so clearly because she’s annorexic and extremely conventionally unattractive so she feels the only way to appease to men and seem attractive to them is to give up her dignity + shame others for not having the only “good” quality she sees in herself (being skinny).
You’re probably thinking of Ann Coulter. 🤮
The more serious argument comes from their insistence that cross-political marriages will help save the nation from “the Trump-era divisions” and social ills stemming from men’s misogyny. […] Worse, it shifts responsibility for male misbehavior onto women. The blame for MAGA is subtly moved away from those who are perpetuating the problem, meaning Trump’s predominantly male voters, onto the shoulders of Democratic women who have been doing everything right all along. It’s reminiscent of the way women’s hemlines are blamed for male violence or the way mothers are blamed for what their grown sons choose to do. It feels easier to blame women than to hold men accountable.
I’m so fucking tired of people (consciously or unconsciously) expecting women to make the effort, make the sacrifice, to “fix things”.
Trying to get men who already think women are inferior to listen to their liberal wives is a joke.
Which is why even just making the effort feels fruitless. There are incredibly few people in my life who would’ve been worth the massive amount of effort and pain and sheer dedication this kind of conversion requires.
There are incredibly few people in my life who would’ve been worth the massive amount of effort and pain and sheer dedication this kind of conversion requires.
PREACH! I had to cut my sister out of my life because of her stupid MAGA husband. I can’t even begin to imagine how much work it would take to pull someone back from far right to just centrist let alone any more left than that.
Republicans don’t fuk
The free market decided. It says ‘no’.
Divorce Republicans out of your life. We all know dem isn’t the be all end all, but it ain’t fascism baby
“If attitudes don’t shift, a political dating mismatch will threaten marriage,” declared a recent headline of a Washington Post column by the editorial board.
Seems to me that Trump voters need to shift their attitudes.
Remember when Steven Crowder had a complete meltdown because his wife didn’t need his permission to file for divorce from his abusive-ass? This is the average conservative mindset. They hate that women have autonomy. It’s why they’re doing everything they can to elect people that will reverse women’s rights. I don’t blame women at all for refusing to date or marry these misogynistic losers.
Yep, they’re actually attacking no-fault divorce because of that.
