I’m out of the loop. Are we federating with Threads or not?

EDIT: The answer is no, we are not federating with Threads. Thank you. That’s the answer I was hoping for.

      • jarfil@beehaw.org
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        Not sure about ethics, but if the argument of “excessive moderation overhead” still holds true for staying defederated from Lemmy.world, the same should apply a thousandfold for Threads.

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          You guys are not federated with lemmy.world‽

          Doesn’t that exclude a LOT of content?

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              There is a big difference between a lot of content and quality content. I appreciate Beehaw for our quality, not the quantity. There are certainly some great content on other instances, but sorting through the crap noise to find the good, just isn’t worth my effort.

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              You don’t see/experience Beehaw as more argumentative than Reddit? I’ve had a hard time staying with Lemmy/Beehaw because people seem to pop out of the woodwork to have exhaustive arguments. If I could share two experiences.

              One was me asking a popular game developer how they wrote a shader for Unity so I could port it to Godot. I got a nice reply on how they did it and even a link to the Godot version someone else did. I even got other people thanking me for that comment and opening the conversation up. Another time I was explaining what that Starfield designer said on Twitter recently wasn’t terrible. I explained calmly and clearly the point of view of a game developer and got responses that either people didn’t see it that way or that they thought the designer still shouldn’t have said those words because of the marketing timing. Overall the exchanges were great and not only gave me a new perspective but made me feel like I opened other people’s eyes.

              The other experience of someone telling me because I plan to vote for Biden that I support genocide and they won’t hear anything about how I don’t. Another great example is how people are defending pirating games from any level of game developer. Even in threads where I comment and explain that pirating hurts employees, people don’t even have a decent conversation about it. They just want to keep excusing their behavior without discussion.

              Overall, it’s made me wonder how people are experiencing Beehaw and Lemmy. If for some reason I am the odd one out. With my two experiences, one on Reddit and one on Beehaw, I question if I am the problem because of the experiences on Beehaw/Lemmy but it’s still me at the root of the experience. So, I feel like I’ve done the leg work to rule myself out.

              I think that Beehaw/Lemmy just attract a certain type of person that typically agrees with each other but Reddit is a mixing pot of a bunch of opinions that have interesting conversations. Reddit feels like what Beehaw was supposed to be. I wish we could ensure our culture on Beehaw reflects our ideals but it’s starting to feel like they don’t and won’t.

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                You’re not the first person I’ve heard who said that so there must be something there. That’s not my experience however, I find that Reddit makes me angry these days, getting annoyed at all the low-effort, inconsiderate posting. Having a debate on Reddit is impossible I find because saying something that goes slightly against the hive-mind you’ll you’ll be passive-aggressively downvoted, which has a chilling effect on what people say. I like that Beehaw doesn’t have downvotes, especially on local communities. On Beehaw/Lemmy someone might argue with you but that’s at least better I think than the knee-jerk downvote-to-oblivion you get on Reddit.

                It’s true that a lot of people are more similar here than on Reddit. I’d argue that’s not necessarily a bad thing. The one-size-fits-all social network for everybody approach I think doesn’t work, it’s more natural to choose a group you fit in to and feel comfortable with (which is how things were on old style forums and message boards). What ever happens to Lemmy/Beehaw in the future, the main thing I hope for is to have plenty of choice of smaller forums which is what’s been lacking in the last decade or so.

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                  I’ve been experiencing more argumentation from non-beehaw users. I think they treat our communities (Politics, LGBTQ, News, etc.) as defaults and they don’t realize that they’re on beehaw. I’ve reminded people of the rules before and had responses telling me they didn’t realize they had posted on beehaw.

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                I was on Reddit for a very long time and a few Lemmy instances when everyone moved. While it’s not perfect, Beehaw is by far the place where I can read comments that are original, less hateful, and less pedantic. I chose Behhaw because everything else is just exhausting to me

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                Piracy is good for indie developers. If I was an indie dev, I’d rather have a million pirates talking about my game on social media than nobody talking about it. Because the more memes, reviews, and culture there is, the more customers it’ll draw.

                I heard a story about a youtuber who made a video about a 10 year old game. It was so old that he could show every single viewer his own download key and they could have all played it for free. But the website got so many people buying the game legitimately, it crashed. People like paying money for games they’ve heard is good. If you have a thriving pirate community, people will hear your game is good.

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                  Yeah, I’ve heard this argument but the numbers don’t match up. Word of mouth from pirates just really doesn’t seem to amount to that much. It seems in general that pirates pirate popular games that already have that word of mouth and they don’t play unpopular games. If you search for a random 10-year-old less than 100 reviews game on Pirate Bay, it won’t pop up.

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          yeah i mean this is the veto even if we wanted to do this (which we don’t) and even if the community wanted it (which they clearly don’t seem to–nobody’s clamored for us to federate with Threads). even a tiny fraction of a fraction of threads being involved with our site would probably top the peak of workload we had when Lemmy took off. there is no current realistic circumstance in which we’d ever choose to or be able to federate with them.

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      I assumed that would be the case. It is difficult to find a non toxic section of Facebook

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      I love this kind of no nonsense answer. Reading the title made me worried there would be endless discussions coming, but this is refreshing.

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      thank you, I’m glad you went with the short answer, leaving absolutely no room for doubt or discussion

      this is good, I’m tired of the endless discussions full of goalposts being moved

  • jarfil@beehaw.org
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    Just out of curiosity, which Lemmy instances are federating with Threads? It’s going to be an interesting thing to… observe.