Google Gemini is horrible when it comes to characterization, and not only that, it tries to justify extremely toxic and abusive behavior. So, I’ll give you an example. There was a TV show on the CW called Superman and Lois. It ran for four seasons. In the show, Clark and Lois have two sons, Jonathan and Jordan. Only Jordan inherited powers.
It ended, but I asked Google Gemini a hypothetical question. I asked, ‘What if Jonathan was 21 years old, he was drinking and driving, and crashed into an armored truck carrying radioactive chemicals, which gave him powers? His 31-year-old girlfriend was murdered by her abusive ex-boyfriend, so Jon goes and beats him up and lets the police arrest him. He becomes a superhero. Clark and Lois find out.’
I asked Gemini how Clark and Lois would react, and it says Clark and Lois would take Jon’s suit, forbid him from being a superhero, and if he refused, would emotionally blackmail him and basically emotionally abuse him until he submits to their will. Ironically, if this did happen in the show and Lois told Jon she ‘forbids’ him from being a superhero, Jon would roll his eyes and tell Lois, ‘Go fuck yourself.’
Clark and Lois would not react like this at all. They aren’t supposed to be controlling abusers. And I love how Gemini is cool with Jon being 21 and dating women 10 years older than him, but being a superhero is where they cross the line. Especially when they were cool with Jordan and Natalie, who are literally young children, being superheroes, but their 21-year-old son can’t? It’s stupid. Why is Gemini making Clark and Lois act like abusers? Clark and Lois, in this situation, are worse or just as bad as the abusive ex-boyfriend who killed Jon’s girlfriend. Why is Google Gemini so bad when it comes to accurate characterization of characters? On top of that why does Gemani glorify abusive behavior and try and justify it? The way Gemani writes Superman makes Lex Luthor look like the hero and honestly maybe Superman does need to be murderd.
You’re assuming Gemini has any prior knowledge of the show, it doesn’t. Unless somebody fed it the scripts from all four seasons, it has nothing to base the characters on.
But you shouldn’t need any prior knowledge of the show.
If you make Logan Roy, Fire Lord Ozai, Darth Vader, Peter Griffin and Stan Smith look like better parents than Clark and Lois, then you have failed somewhere.
You shouldn’t need prior knowledge of the show; it should still know the characterisations if it’s researching it.
It’s not researching anything, it’s regurgitating what others have fed it.
Gemini doesn’t know who Lois and Clark are, they’re just names.
OP is mad that even AI won’t tell them that a relationship between a 21 year old and a 31 year old is inherently wrong
No, I’m not, but it’s contradictory; you can’t be ok with your 21-year-old son dating a 31-year-old woman but then not be ok with them being a superhero or vigilante.
And even if you had a problem with it, there isn’t shit you can do about it.
Should they in some way prevent him from dating a 31 year old? You yourself said they have no right to forbid a 21 year old from doing anything
Should they in some way prevent him from dating a 31 year old?
No, I don’t, but if you are writing Clark and Lois, whether it be for a comic, TV show, fanfic, or whatever, their characters need to be consistent. If you are okay with your 21-year-old dating a 31-year-old, then you should be fine with them being a superhero. If you aren’t okay with them being a superhero, then you shouldn’t want them dating someone 10 years older than them.
They also shouldn’t be okay with him drunk driving, especially given Superman’s commitment to stopping crime
They also shouldn’t be okay with him drunk driving
In the story it literally happened either 6 months ago or two years ago any rational person would get over it.
The relationship with the 31 year old is also in the past, she’s dead. So they should be over it. And no, no rational person just “gets over” someone drunk driving. Drunk driving is a very serious issue. It’s like expecting them to “get over” him attacking people with a knife. I find it very concerning that you think they should be more concerned with who a grown adult dates than with him committing a serious crime. You said yourself, they don’t have a right to forbid a 21 year old from making his own decisions, that includes who he dates. They still, however, have a right to tell him to obey the law, especially if Superman involves himself in enforcing the law
And no, no rational person just “gets over” someone drunk driving. Drunk driving is a very serious issue. It’s like expecting them to “get over” him attacking people with a knife.
He didn’t kill anyone while, yeah, drinking and driving is bad. Like I said, in this scenario, it happened fucking 6 months or two years ago; it’s in the past. There is no need to bring it back up, and no, attacking an innocent person with a knife is obviously worse than drunk driving.
I find it very concerning that you think they should be more concerned with who a grown adult dates than with him committing a serious crime. You said yourself, they don’t have a right to forbid a 21 year old from making his own decisions, that includes who he dates.
I don’t think any parent has the right to control their 21-year-old kid. It’s ridiculous that Gemini portrays Clark and Lois as overreacting to Jon being a superhero and lying about it—especially since Clark hid his own identity for 14 years. Then it says they’d “forbid” Jon from being a hero, but they’re fine with him dating women 10–20 years older. So basically, “You can date whoever you want, but you can’t save lives”? That makes zero sense.
You’re expecting too much from a bunch of vector operations. The grim scenario you gave it might have tipped it into that tone of answer.
You really shouldn’t get offended by this sort of thing, it’s like getting offended because your car doesn’t slow down in school zones unless you let your foot off the gas pedal.
It doesn’t matter if Jon was drunk driving; he is 21 years old. Clark and Loid don’t have a fucking “right” to “forbid” anything; they can’t “let” a 21-year-old do anything.
If Clark and Lois try to tell Jon, who’s 21 years old, “You aren’t allowed to do this,” Jon should say one of these things.
“Mind your own business.”
“fuck off”
“Go fuck yourself.”
“Go suck a dick.”
“Fuck you”
Any other combination for “fuck you” and “go fuck yourself”.
I guess, but getting mad because a program doesn’t answer the way you wanted it to is silly; it’s an algorithm, not a person.
Did Superman and Lois take issue with the drunk driving part?
Only the street racing.
Did Superman and Lois take issue with the drunk driving part?
It doesn’t matter if Jon was drunk driving; he is 21 years old. Clark and Loid don’t have a fucking “right” to “forbid” anything; they can’t “let” a 21-year-old do anything.
If Clark and Lois try to tell Jon, who’s 21 years old, “You aren’t allowed to do this,” Jon should say one of these things.
“Mind your own business.”
“fuck off”
“Go fuck yourself.”
“Go suck a dick.”
“Fuck you”
Any other combination for “fuck you” and “go fuck yourself”.
Drunk driving is illegal at any age. Superman has taken it upon himself to stop crime
But in the scenario I gave, the drunk driving accident either happened two years ago or 6 months ago, so you would think he would get over it. Also, what does that have to do with Jon being a superhero or not?
You were wondering why these hypothetical people were concerned about him being a superhero but not concerned about him dating an older woman. I wondered if they were concerned about the part where he committed a crime that endangered others. If Jonathan were a member of my family, that would be the part that I’d be concerned about
Or he could say “I’m old enough to make my own decisions” in a mature way. I don’t know what answer you were expecting AI to give you. You asking how Lois and Clark would react implies they would feel it is their business to react in some way.
No, if Clark and Lois were disrespectful first, then Jon should tell them, “Fuck you and go fuck yourselves.” It also doesn’t make sense because in season 3 Lois got breast cancer, and in the last episode she decided not to go to chemo three times. Sam Lane said to Clark, “You let Lois miss chemo for an investigation?!” And Clark said, “I didn’t let her do anything,” so why wouldn’t the same be applied to a 21-year-old Jonathan Kent?
Gemini doesn’t know these details. I haven’t watched the show you’re talking about but it sounds like you know the show and the characters. Why are you asking AI to tell you what the characters would do when you know better than it can possibly know?
