Apparently this is an unpopular opinion among feminists. If feminism is about equality for everyone, it needs to address that. As an example, LGBTQ+ was extended many times to cover everyone in the community, and that’s the right thing to do. There isn’t just L and everyone repeats “Oh! Lesbians are for rights for everyone, no need to update that”

I don’t know what the new name should be, but it should cover gender equality for everyone.

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    I would be all for giving women special treatment to make up the balance.

    But, I need to know exactly how much special treatment to give women, and I’m not talking about just treating women equally, I’m saying giving them special treatments, special privileges, making them A class citizens and men B class citizens for a set time period, or whatever it takes until the balance is zero.

    If they can show me an accounting or put together a concise, hey guys, you owe us exactly 800 trillion karma points, which can be redeemed by one good action at a time.

    Sure, fine, let’s get to it, let’s take care of that debt, let’s get rid of the interest, let’s set everything back to 0 and start over from scratch.

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      Are the people downvoting me because I have been crass or crude in some way?

      Have I missed some fundamental concept that would have caused a different outcome?

      My statement is I want to zero out the debt and start over as a society with men and women being completely and totally equal in every way.

      No past debts lingering overhead, a blank slate, a fresh start, a new us.

      Why would anyone be against that?

      I, as a man, have the capacity to apologize. Women, as women, have the capacity to forgive.

      Why are we not making this happen somehow, some way?

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        My statement is I want to zero out the debt and start over as a society with men and women being completely and totally equal in every way.

        No past debts lingering overhead, a blank slate, a fresh start, a new us.

        Why would anyone be against that?

        probably the “making them A class citizens and men B class citizens” part, that’s not very cash money, blank slate, fresh start. Certainly not “No past debts lingering,” so the downvotes are probably a combination of your cognitive dissonance and smug attitude about fixing oppression with more oppression.

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          There’s nothing about my attitude that smug. I’m saying that if there was a clear accounting of the total amount of damage is done by men to women, we should pay that debt off.

          Like, please assume that I am collaborating in the conversation and that I’m looking to build something positive and not that I’m just trying to, like, one up or get up votes or anything else. I am contributing my viewpoint to the conversation. That’s it.

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              Yeah, and you said I was smug about it, when there is no sense of smugness coming from me, which implies that you misread my intentions, so I clarified.

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            There’s nothing about my attitude that smug.

            Smuggest shit I’ve ever read.