• Auth@lemmy.world
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    15 days ago

    No more disingenuous than saying liberals enable fascists because they didnt remove law enforcement when they were in power.

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      15 days ago

      It isn’t that they didn’t “Completely remove law enforcement” or whatever. But that even when they run on these expansions of state violence and repression being bad, they immediately walk that back, make it bipartisan and even expand this very authoritarian repression apparatuses, like Obama running on opposition of Bush era anti-terrorism and opposition to ICE, but then expanding and empowering both once in power.

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        11 days ago

        What are you even trying to get at. Obama banned torture and a ton of CIA black sites. But you’re saying because he didnt reduce the USs surveliance network to 0 he is comparable to Trump. As for deportations thats a right wing meme and im not suprised you’re repeating it back. Obama barely deported more than previous years and as far as im aware they were legal. Go look into it if you dont believe me.

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          8 days ago

          Obama ran on closing Guantanamo and black sites but closed very few and maintained Guantanamo and its torture program. He expanded the war on terror resolutions, including allowing extrajudicial executions of US citizens in his expansion of the drone program. The expansion of deportations is not a right-wing meme, it is true. Obama has been the deporter-in-chief, with only Trumps second term probably finally topping Obama’s record there. NSA surveillance expanded under Obama, he was an expansion not just “Didn’t completely end everything and bring it to 0”. Sure, maybe Romney or McCain might have expanded it even more, but that is the only justification for Democrats, that they didn’t maximize the evil as much as possible, so should have uncritical support for that reason.