Keir Starmer’s Labour government has had a dismal first year in power. In an interview, socialist leader Jeremy Corbyn explains why it’s time to create a new left-wing party that empowers working-class people.
They need to get defined quickly, signups show theres demand but I worry that they’ve spent a lot of time faffing and being pretty directionless in attempt to make everyone happy. You won’t take on Reform if you can’t match them on party identity and right now they still have no name.
700K Seems huge, but given they are only asking for interest not any membership or funding. It is dramatically less impressive then the number of 500k labour members under Corbyn,
And for the party to have a fighting chance. That level of support and funding will be needed. Just to compete with the right wing corporate funding of the current Labour party.
That said. Even if it’s simply an attempt by left voters to push labour to the left. Such bodes well for the party when it dose form properly.
The biggest risk is the left wing history of rejecting parties over individual idealism. Such a party can only have any effect if the left is willing to come together over disagreements. Much as the right will to avoid the left.
If the left as a whole consider moving labour to the right important enough to unify. Either the new party will take over. Or labour will consider how dangerouse the lose of the left can be.
The biggest risk is the left wing history of rejecting parties over individual idealism. Such a party can only have any effect if the left is willing to come together over disagreements. Much as the right will to avoid the left.
I think they are. Jeremy Corbyn is not exactly my favourite person in the world but if it means getting an actual left-wing government and willing to support him nonetheless.
Possibly. We really need to wait for polling data. And that will be limited until name.etc is settled.
Membership would also be a huge info point is these numbers are willing to join. I will. But anything close to Corbyn labour membership numbers will indicate stronger support.
Personally I do like Corbyn as a person. But think he is unskilled as a politician. I’m glad he is not talking about leadership on his own. He has too much baggage.
So far I’ve liked his partners approach to anti semitism accusations.
Normally I’d be skeptical of a party like this having a chance, but those sign-up figures are insane, 650 k is huge! The last published Labour membership figures were about one third of that.
Outsider parties have the power to mobilize inactive voters and move the overton window even if they don’t end up winning. If you care about this sort of thing now is the time to promote it and sign up and donate. Elections are mass psychology, if you’re always going with the flow you don’t get to change anything.
sign-up figures are insane, 650 k is huge! The last published Labour membership figures were about one third of that.
It’s 650k people subscribing to a list vs being a member. Not really the same thing.
Of course sign up figures don’t necessarily translate into votes. I suspect a lot of people have signed up to try and put the wind up labour.
Personally I don’t particularly trust Corbyn as leader. He likes to think of himself as uncompromising but really he’s just awkward, hard to work with, and let’s perfect be the enemy of good far too often. But his party is useful in trying to show labour how unhappy we are with them.
Realistically, he hasn’t got a chance. Next time it’s going to be more Labour or Farage. We are so fucked.
I think you’re massively underestimating the appetite the population has for an actual left-wing government. The conservatives lost power because of how awful they were, they have demonstrated that they haven’t changed and reform are even worse than they are. It was a mistake for reform to gain council seats they’ve now just demonstrated their incompetence quite publicly.
So what we’re left with is a bunch of proven uselessnesses, a sleepy lib dem party that’s unlikely to wake up anytime soon, vs whatever the flaming hell Corbin ends up calling his party.
I hope you are right. I just can’t see it myself.
It took 14 years and 5 prime ministers for them to realise how shit they were, and the best alternative they could think of was red Tory.
I mean, it worked for them last time they got in as well.
Tony Blair didn’t sweep to power under a banner of socialist reform. He got in by being slightly less shit than the people we were all sick of.
Our electoral system keeps us in a cycle of this by design. And Farage will just be Tories Extra.
I can’t really trust any of them. I suspect Corbyn would have an authoritarian streak a mile wide as well, but he’s not going to get in anyway.
he hasn’t got a chance
You mean the MP who’s been consistently voted in to his seat since 1983, over 40 years? Who was leader of the opposition and a contender for prime minister? Who’s now forming a whole new party together with a bunch of other MPs at a time when the party that got voted into power in a landslide in response to the last shit show of a goverment has shown themselves to be no different in kind to said shit show? That guy?
You wish he didn’t have a chance.
