Inspired by another post.
Quick sources.
According to Google, a single search requires about 0.0003 kWh of energy.
https://www.rwdigital.ca/blog/how-much-energy-do-google-search-and-chatgpt-use/
Each ChatGPT query consumes an estimated 2.9 Wh of electricity…
Edit: I’m an idiot for not even considering conversions. I simply pasted the numbers from the sources. Apologies.
0.0003 kWh is 0.3 Wh, and 2.9 Wh is 0.0029 kWh.
I think the regular search is effectively one-tenth a chatgpt prompt.
…according to a simple calculator, and a lot of commenters who’ve now accidentally made this funnier.
I’m not an electrician.
Okay, after some more rabbling, here’s some edits. Take your pick:
It bothers me so much that the two numbers are in different units
0.0003 of anything should not be measured in kilo-units
While I do agree with you, kWh is what’s on my electric bill. Meaning it’s easier to relate to.
I guess it should have been expressed in base unit without SI-prefix. Because writing 0.3x10^-3 kWh just seem silly.
Hmm, great point. I simply copied the figures from the sources. I dunno why I didn’t consider converting one of them.
Edited post to add conversions. Thank you.
But now I just think the meme is even funnier for a new accidental reason.
I thought the joke was about people not being able to convert. It took a couple of clock cycles on the old meat CPU to figure out that it was an anti AI meme.
Aren’t they both in Watt Hours of different magnitudes, so same unit different magnitudes.
Yes, but it’s obviously done that way to make the numbers look more different at first glance
What, misdirection for the sake of humor? No one would ever do that!
Looks more like misdirection for the sake of misdirection to me.
Samesies
For context, 0.0003 kWh are 0.3 Wh, i.e. ten times less than a ChatGPT query.
The unit bullshittery going on in this meme is frying my brain. I need a nap.
If I can stay awake long enough maybe I can work out how this works. My PC burns around 500Wh under load, so the time I just spent playing Abyssus was burning about 3 GPT searches a minute, by that estimation. It’s still much less than 30, and I can probably figure whatever I’m looking for in much less than that, but still.
I wonder if it’s supposed to be better or worse if I decide to burn all that at home by running a local LLM. I don’t think my GPU is more power efficient than their data centers, and it’d almost certainly run longer than 20 seconds, but I do have pretty green power sources in this area and it is air cooled.
I guess it depends on whether my office gets hot enough to make me turn on the AC.
0.0003 Wh are 0.3 Wh
A- for trying
LOL dammit, fixed
While we’re at it: Ten times less shouldn’t be a thing.
Ten percent, 0.1 times, a tenth …
wait, you never walk up downstairs?
When multiplying by a number bigger than one, I expect the result to be bigger, not smaller. Simple as that.
…Yeah, but also digits after decimal exist.
Did you ask ChatGPT to do your math too?
Terrible choice of units hides the fact that 0.3 and 3 are not that far apart.
A full order of magnitude is “not that far”?
A lot closer than 4 orders.
When you’re talking about a difference of 9 Google Searches, an LED bulb running for 15 minutes, or running an AC unit for about a second, yes its not much.
Edit: Although notably, the training is the concerning part power-wise. That said, not using it doesn’t help that that much seeing as they’re mostly funded by speculative investment. The best course of action is instead through collective organization to strengthen the working class and push for stronger regulations.
I simply copied from the sources, not thinking at all. I’ve added context to the edit per everyone’s remarks. It’s about a tenth.
But you raise an interesting question.
A quick search suggests ChatGPT gets 2.5 billion prompts a day. I wouldn’t presume this is a one-to-one scale. How many Google searches result in more searches as the person is trying to refine to figure out what they’re looking for or not finding it? Additionally, how prompts into ChatGPT have further prompts for refinement?
I could see a case when ChatGPT gives quick results that take one prompt whereas someone unsuccessfully googling might make 10 searches.
Does it net out? Who knows. There’s also innumerable other factors at play. What we CAN know is that energy use has skyrocketed recently, whereas Googles been around for decades.
Actually, it shows regular searches as 10x more efficient.
I feel like ⅒ is a gross overestimation and regular search engines should consume at least 100 times less than GPTs.
Ah, well, good thing your feeling is more important than any potential source of actual data.
I look up recipes a lot, would love to know the actual cost of visiting a site, given all of the JavaScript and cookies, tracking, images etc that has to be loaded, that I don’t really care about
I use it to help figure out the order to cook things like stir frys with whatever ingredients I happen to have, which is an improvement over my previous “just throw it all in and stop when I feel like it’s time to eat then wonder why the meat is so tough”.
It also helped me figure out that I’ve been steaming food instead of frying it for a long time. Though my cooking got a lot messier when I corrected that and I went from never burning anything to occasionally burning some things.
Do you have the app broccoli?
Nope, why?
Do yourself a favor, get it. Best recipe app, just share the recipe page with broccoli and it will create a quick recipe
Sounds cool!
Is it Android-only? Can’t find anything food related called broccoli on Apple app store unfortunately
Are they not the same number?
Different by one decimal place.
So 0.3GPT?
You lost me there…
Is the benefit provided by ChatGPT worth 3 million electric cars? Can we maybe scrap something else, like 1% of fast fashion, to equal out the capacity?
No to the first part, but we should still do the second part.
no, because line needs to go up
Seriously though, I agree with you. It’s just so wasteful. It’s really disheartening to try and do my eco friendly bit to reduce waste (particularly of power) and then data centres just piss away the ground we’ve collectively made.
The error with the measuring units is so grotesque it looks like bad faith to ride the AI bad wave but who knows
ChatGPT, how do you make a meme wothout chatGPT?
anyone wanna correct it then ? I currently don’t have computer for this, maybe there is android foss meme maker app though ?
New free DLC options added!
I am pretty sure you don’t need an app
Next time try making the meme without a pedophile.
Next time try making the meme without a pedophile.
Got it. I won’t make a meme with you next time.
