• ValueSubtracted@startrek.websiteOP
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      Yeah, I don’t think you’re going to convince me that state-sponsered euthanasia is an acceptable alternative to a broken health care system.

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      Uh, yeah, because once dying is the recommended alternative to fixing the mental health care system, there’s going to be less demand, and government will use that as an excuse to not fix the fucking problem.

      • BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca
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        2 years ago

        Ah yes, keep the suffering as high as possible for some people in order to put pressure on fixing the system.

        That isn’t cruel at all.

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            Yet they aren’t going to offer significantly better treatment, so if that’s not an option, why shouldn’t MAID be?

            It’s not like hiring 10% more specialists will fix this, the volume of people needing help is way higher than that. You can yell all you want about wanting better treatment, the rest of us want to be realistic given the resources available. We probably need 500% more specialists, and there’s simply no way to train or pay that many people.

            The only way this problem gets solved is if we manage to create an AI that can successfully treat millions of people at the same time. It will likely happen at some point, but that point is not today, or even this decade likely. Until then, I’d like people to have options to retain their dignity.

              • BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca
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                Other countries have mental health crisises as well. I can’t name a single first world country that has enough mental health support available to everyone. It’s very very difficult given that most people won’t even talk about their problems.

                Maid is cheap, but my argument has nothing to do with that. Maid is a personal choice, and I think everyone deserves that right.

      • BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca
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        Because it isn’t considerable resources that we spend on MAID, and it’s not the same resources either. Some people with extreme mental illness need to talk to a mental health specialist daily for months or years.

        MAID takes a handful of meetings, then a pill.