I have accounts on various Reddit alternatives and have also had accounts on now-defunct sites. However, none have exhibited the same level of negativity as Lemmy.
People on Lemmy have bailed from Reddit because they have principles. Stuff like Linux. The value of science/education. Lefty-ism (or whatever it’s called in their region). FOSS. They are willing to cut themselves out from a larger community to foster one that is compatible with their principles.
From your comment history you seem to be posting stuff outside of Lemmy’s core beliefs. That’s great! But the people here really believe in those principles, so they react negatively to the comments.
I dunno what else to say. If we want Lemmy to be viable, we need to allow people with other views build communities here. We feel pretty close to a monoculture at the moment.
Huh. Maybe it’s the communities/posts I’ve visited but I wouldn’t agree with your assessment of an inherent negativity/hatefulness. Do you have examples we can discuss?
This post as an example?
There is for sure great comments, but then there is the rest of lemmy.
But… It’s your post taking about negativity, so you’re saying your post about negativity on Lemmy is evidence of negativity on Lemmy? Or the fact the current vote count is negative?
Read the comments and tell me, is it postive or negative or netural And compare it with any reddit alternative general vibe.
You will come to the same conclusion.
Also, here is a second example: https://lemm.ee/post/30511698
I hadn’t really noticed that Lemmy is any more or less negative than Reddit used to be. I have noticed that most people on here are a lot more polite aside from the occasional trolls. Maybe the negativity is more of a trend in the specific communities you’re visiting?
A lot of comments seem to disagree with you, so define Negativity? ( what do you consider to be negative behavior )
I am saying that as a former reddit user and current Discuit user and multi lemmy instance account user:
Rude people comments and downvotes for any type of post and bad mods who are going through power trips.
Admins are not involved in the site like the other reddit alternatives.
Edit 1 : Admins are not involved.
Admins being more involved, IMHO, is a positive, not a negative.
I meant that they are not involved, I edited my comment.
I agree with you from my discuit experience.
I don’t think Lemmy is all that negative. Pessimistic as another put it, sure. You are just having the classic experience of someone that’s an asshole so see’s assholes everywhere. Reflect on your own behaviour.
Exhibit A. Calling people assholes is exactly what OP is talking about. You ramped up the negativity.
I mean, ops comment history is there for the reading.
What is wrong about my comment history?
The whole point of the fediverse is that you can do it yourself if you don’t like the way existing instances operate.
But here it seems you’re not interested in putting forth any effort at all: https://lemm.ee/comment/11445877
If you want to join someone else’s community, expect to have to abide by their rules. You wanna make the rules, put in the effort to make your own community. Nobody’s forcing you to be here. Bye now, don’t let my block hit you on the way out.
It’s always a laugh to see users like this. Nothing like joining an established group and then whinging about how “toxic” it is when they get rebuffed for repeatedly breaking the given rules.
What rule did I break ?
I’ve seen the same thing and I think it’s a conversation we need to have.
I think it’s because Lemmy is populated by people who did not like Reddits changes. We are malcontents by definition, and holy cow does it show. And of course all the people that have had their Reddit accounts banned too.
I think everyone needs to take their tone down quite a few notches.
If what you are describing is the case, then why none of the alternatives have the same level of negativity?
What alternatives are you using? I’ve only tried Lemmy after Reddit. I don’t find it overly negative here either btw, but I’m interested to compare.
Discuit.
I think it just correlates with leftism in the US and Lemmy was leftist before the Reddit exodus increased the population. I say this as a US center-left liberal (and I get annoyed with it myself).
The leftist movement is very anti-establishment, very pessimistic about their future under capitalism, very pessimistic about the US political establishment, very pessimistic about climate change, very pessimistic about the Israel-Hamas situation, very pessimistic about police, very pessimistic about health care, very pessimistic about both Biden and Temp, very pessimistic about … pretty much every major issue (except maybe weed).
Edit: I don’t mean to “rage against the leftist” either, I think y’all have some good points from time to time and there are definitely things I agree with you on (e.g. the health care system needs major changes). Some of y’all give a real “you must be fun at parties” kind of vibe though and some are about as bad as the Trump supporters in terms of using personal attacks.
are about as bad as the Trump supporters in terms of using personal attacks.
Russian, trumpist, moron, bot, Chinese, tankie, fascist, Republican, child, shill.
This is a selection of things I’ve been called for saying that Biden should stop supporting genocide.
Tell me how bad the left is about personal attacks.
If you opposed genocide you’d support Israel, who is fighting an explicitly genocidal opponent that did in fact commit acts of genocide against israel, as per international law.
My understanding is that the original devs of Lemmy are tankies, so the culture they fostered was very anti-western values.
I would say that lemmy is just more realist then naive optimist, since more intellectual people probably use lemmy or even try to fund Reddit alternatives.
