This was not really a threat and let’s be honest because of the power difference this lady is facing actual jail time

I haven’t even made a single comment thus far about what she said, but I absolutely get why she said it. The fact that she’s facing jail time is absurd.

the worker faces nothing.

What we say to others can and often does have an effect on their mental health. Being forced to sit and take abuse and harassment with no recourse isn’t “nothing”. bffr

As I explained, it is a win if CSR don’t want to work for the company unless they are paid more

That’s not how the real world works, though. The majority of us are forced into our jobs because they need money to exist. Even if they wanted to leave, the job market fucking sucks. Not to mention, a lot of the jobs that exist are at other, equally shitty companies. Not much of a choice there.

Making an obvious statement out of frustration is not berating.

Again, I neither said nor implied that it was. I made it pretty clear that I was responding to this specific statement:

Their frontline workers should take the brunt of what the public feels.

The result of getting “the brunt of what the public feels” inherently includes being berated, insulted, ect. I’m sure you’ve experienced as a CSR; as have I. Countless times.

I mean you are really just siding with the corporation under the guise of protecting the CSR agent.

I’d love to hear you elaborate on this claim. It certainly is an interesting one.

My entire point is that I believe (most) people, CSRs in particular, simply deserve to be treated with respect… even when the conversation is about a problem that upsets you. It’s not exactly a complicated argument; nor is it much to ask for.

Now that I think about it, not even one of my points was actually addressed in your response. Nice try, though!

Their frontline workers should take the brunt of what the public feels.

Yes. That is the job. But the fact that they already take the brunt doesn’t justify anyone screaming/abusing/threatening/ect the CSR.

Sounds like a win to me. Company goes under because no one wants to work for them knowing the public hates them or they will get paid enough they don’t care.

A win for whom? What exactly do you get out of it? Satisfaction? Is it just some kind of flaccid moral victory or something?

If this were actually the case, quite a lot of businesses would’ve gone under a long time ago. Most of them still pay shit wages.

In the meantime, real people are negatively affected by the assholery of customers every single day.

This is not a win for the workers. It’s hard enough being forced to spend most of your life working to make just enough money to scrape by, let alone being screamed at, insulted, condescended to, ect.

But then you can’t access the person who is at fault so there is nothing you can do.

except to berate the CSR, apparently. There’s definitely nooo way to voice one’s concerns while speaking like a respectful, emotionally competant human being.

Wait, what does flipping out on them accomplish again?

I was a pretty big fan of them when I was a teenager. Saw them live a couple of times. They were actually what prompted my eventual radicalization.

One of them (not the rapist; ugh… what a huge fucking disappointment that was) lived just a few houses away from us for a few years. I never built up the courage to approach him, though.

Edit: just read the article the other commenter posted. Didn’t realize the rest of the band was (probably) a problem too. It’s a bummer, but I can’t really say I’m surprised.

It depends. If you eat frequently, regardless of how much you eat, you’re going to feel hungry relatively soon at any given point. So, eating at a deficit just amplifies that. It’s hard to ignore.

However, I’m a big fan of fasting (though I haven’t been very consistent with it lately). Once my body eventually gets used to not eating multiple times per day and instead, say, eating one big meal once per day, I don’t feel hungry at all until dinner time.

Even if you do eat at a reasonable deficit, and your daily meal is healthy/has enough fiber/protein, it’s way more likely to satiate you.

Not really related to the post, but if I’m doing OMAD (one meal a day) consistently, fasting also makes me feel great. I get a noticeable increase in energy and mental clarity.

Me too. That just sounds even more exhausting than my life already is

AskLemmy’s name is modeled after the Reddit thread AskReddit, which was basically the same concept.

In the future, I suggest reading a page’s description and rules before posting. The information is there for a reason, after all.

I do this too. Though instead of a hard-boiled egg, I like to fry one so the yolk is still a little runny, and put it on top.

Recently, I’ve been making a vinaigrette with olive oil, vinegar, dijon mustard, salt/pepper, honey, and Lao Gan Ma spicy chili crisp. It’s pretty damn good.

I suspect other insurance companies will be following suit :)

How could it be anything but a 10?

Trying to mentally/emotionally distance myself from my “customer service” job. Like, pretending I’m not a CSR, but that I’m playing the role of a CSR in a show, or something. After over 10 years working jobs like this, and for multiple reasons, the stress and asshole customers have been making me even even more miserable than necessary lately.

At the very least, this is helping me stay cool-headed and friendly enough to piss off angriest/most condescending callers, which can be pretty cathartic sometimes. It’s not so effective when it’s overwhelmingly busy, though.

Also, calling my lawyer, which was extremely stressful to me for literally no logical reason. Actually, I had a reason to look forward to it.

Technically, they just taste like pork, so you might be ok?

It’s really frustrating how little value so many adults assign to the thoughts and feelings of kids. I felt the effects of that a lot while growing up.

Idk. If it were up to me, I think I’d make the voting age maybe 14 or 15. It’s not that an 8-year-old’s feelings don’t matter (to me, at least), but you need to allow them enough time and brain development to be able to start to learn about and understand these kinds of things.

There should also be accompanying education surrounding different political ideologies, history, policies, propaganda tactics, ect., but I’m sure that’d be very unpopular with a lot of parents.

I’m horribly afraid of heights and can’t even stomach a normal wall climb (like with a harness and everything) without quivering like a leaf.

Also most BIG bugs, especially if they have a lot of legs… though I think I’d probably be fine with a tarantula, for some reason. No idea why. The small ones are usually fine, minus wasps and hornets.

I’m kind of afraid of the dark too, but it’s also not really about the darkness itself. I’ll find myself vividly envisioning things like a snarling wolf suddenly lunging from the darkness to tear my throat out, or a large, unhinged man sneaking up behind me, or some shit like that. It usually only happens outdoors in rural areas where nights are much darker, which allows my imagination to run more wildly than usual. Thankfully, I live in a city now.

Not needing to eat would definitely be a huge strength.

Of course not needing to eat would be a strength. There’s a significant difference between that and what I said, though. Not eating when you need to is not the same as not needing to eat at all. There is no choice but to eat if you are to survive, just as there is no choice but to cry when you need to in order to be mentally and emotionally well.

Crying IS the mental breakdown. It’s what you do when you need someone else’s help because you can’t do it yourself(weakness).

I strongly disagree. Crying is only a release of emotion on its own. Just because someone is crying doesn’t inherently mean that they’re having a mental breakdown.

I’m a crier. It’s extremely fucking annoying, but nevertheless a part of me. I weep when I’m sad, stressed, pissed off. On occasion, I even shed happy tears.

Am I having a mental breakdown when I cry while watching a sad movie? When I’m justifiably angry about an injustice in the world or my personal life? Definitely not.

I’ve experienced more than my fair share of real mental breakdowns, but that number is dwarfed by the number of times I’ve cried.

A The problem here is that people prey on you when they see that weakness, and a civilized society should not do this.

While that’s true, it doesn’t change the fact that we need an emotional outlet to be well. Those emotions will be there whether or not you release them when you feel the need to.

If you try to suppress them, you’re more likely to be incapacitated by them—even physically—if they eventually become too much to handle. It’s just postponing a smaller weakness for a larger one later on.

Sure. Though you could argue that needing food, water, and sleep is a sign of weakness, too.

Simply existing automatically comes with these “weaknesses”, so I don’t see the point in assigning them with a negative value, as your perspective seems to. I doubt many people would claim that not drinking water is a sign of strength. Why should crying be any different?

Now, having a mental breakdown because you haven’t allowed yourself to feel your emotions, though? Or lashing out at others because you haven’t learned how to regulate yourself? Now, that’s about as emotionally and mentally weak as you can get.

I’m sorry. That’s so shitty. I really don’t get women who are like that. The ability to express emotion (in a healthy way) is one of the most attractive traits one can have, imo.

My AMAB (and non-binary, though they didnt realize that until like 9 years into our relationship) partner has cried in front of me COUNTLESS times. Because they’re a fucking human being who has feelings. It’s really not hard to understand if you take even just one moment to empathize.

I think a lot of the people on Lemmy came from Reddit when the whole API thing happened. It was pretty much a boycott. I assume most of the people who cared enough about that to leave were mostly left-leaning.

That’s why I’m here, at least.

Edit: not sure about Mastodon, though

We got even plus sized manikins in stores, wow.

you do know that’s because plus-sized clothing exists too, right? Do you expect stores to just not display their clothes simpy because they’re for fat people, or…?

But I dare you to name a single character from a show or movie that is skinny (not jacked skinny, but skinny skinny) that isn’t a crackhead junkie, some psycho or a basement dweller with his eyes glued to a screen?

Victor, from Arcane; Ben Wyatt, from Parks and Recreation; Gareth Keenan, from The Office (UK); Ken Cosgrove from Mad Men. I’m sure there are many more, but that’s just who I could think of off the top of my head.

I absolutely agree that there should be better representation of men’s (and women’s, imo) body types, including skinny men. But you’re really overestimating the quantity and quality of decent representation of fat women in roles that don’t rely on steroetypes. By that, I mean: isn’t unhinged/shrill/creepy/portrayed as gross or undesirable because she’s fat (and sometimes old)/there solely and shallowly as “the funny fat woman”. The majority of roles played by women, especially prominent ones, are still played by thin women.

Fat female characters are relatable and important to have because—whether you like it or not—fat women exist in real life. One simply existing in media does not inherently come with a statement condoning any particular lifestyle as you seem to be implying.

I know one, DJ Qualms, who’s arguably most famous role is a disabled person. Great.

…and? That’s a bad thing to you?

it feels like colleagues talk bad about me.

What makes you say that? It’s pretty likely that’s just your anxiety talking.

I’m not exactly the most social—or even socially competent—person, but I know friends are important to have, especially if you don’t have family you can lean on. Friends can balance you out and provide alternate perspectives when you need them, and we all need them sometimes.

Also, I’m pretty sure having (good) friends is beneficial for your mental health. Having no friends can be detrimental to it.

Regardless of what you decide, I suggest putting yourself out there. Start slowly, and ask people about themselves. It can very difficult and stressful at first, but it does get easier over time.

It might be a good idea to make a pros/cons list for staying/getting a job; I’m sure there are other important factors to consider aside from the social climate.