I mean, the Americans weren’t sworn enemies of the nazis, their “alliance”, for lack of a better term, just wasn’t this blatant. It manifested more in running significant cover for nazis post-war; even shipping them to high places within the US government and military complex; undermining de-nazification efforts, and in anti-communist ops such as GLADIO and purges of Americans with communist leanings from their jobs. Also in commanding that the factories of american companies on german soil not be bombed, paying out tens of millions of dollars to those companies when their factories were destroyed, even though their sole purpose there was to manufacture and sell weapons to the “enemy”. I mean there were straight up nazi rallies in America, swastika flags and all. If America was hostile to fascist ideology in any way, such rallies and corporate collaboration quite simply would not have been allowed.

America didn’t enter the war to defeat Hitler, as if there was some switch that flipped when he “went too far” after everything the Nazis had already done and gains they had made that would have threatened the US if they were true enemies. No, the hope was always for the Nazis to crush the worker’s movement in Russia. The US only entered once it became clear that the Nazis were out-matched and the best possible outcome for the US was to prevent the USSR from being the sole benefactor of Hitler’s defeat.

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My take on it is that it’s just a tool, and as with most tools you can use it in a sensible way that’s positive, although many people choose not to.

I mean sure a screwdriver is “just a tool”, and you can use a screwdriver to pick ice; but it’s not the most efficient tool for the job. It was designed for something else entirely, which makes it awkward and finicky to use as an ice pick. This is why so many people use screwdrivers for their intended purpose, rather than manipulating them to fit into a different workflow.

(The intended purpose here is disrupting creative professions, making creative labor cheaper and more efficient in order to maximize capitalists’ profit from it. Not to make artists’ lives easier or increase their effectiveness as laborers and business owners, although yes it can be used that way and, yes, that is arguably a limited side effect of the original intention.)

This isn’t a concept vehicle, it’s the Cadillac Celestiq. Got to test drive one once; feels great, handles great. Emphasis on “rich” Shadowrun villain though. Lucky for you, if you have a spare 350K lying around, it can be yours today!

(obligatory fuck GM, they as a company are personally responsible for this car-dependent hellscape we live in, for the destruction of many communities, and of course they are happy to provide luxury vehicles for the wealthy to navigate it as painlessly as possible. This is not an ad and my knowledge of this vehicle was acquired involuntarily. The least I could get out of it was a turn at the wheel.)

Also, consider this an official petition to bring back (affordable) station wagons (yes, that is what this is) in the EV age instead of bending over backwards to get any sort of useful range out of trucks (including the ones masquerading as SUVs.)

Musk got involved

Most pickups are far larger than their use cases call for

Maybe post it wherever you’re going to post it with the first line as the title? Wouldn’t want anyone to seek out the original tweet and bring traffic to this guy’s ableism, best to pretend it doesn’t exist.

Edit: or do that thing that meme reposters do and just put the text over a white background with the original tweet (see below for an example)

hahahahaaaa stay mad fascist

Are you saying the Republican party and their mouthpieces are not far right authoritarians?

Most Nazis were “regular people” “just right wing” until the opportunity came for them to commit atrocities.

One that wants to recruit more fascists and fascist sympathizers?

Yeah, we all know the nazis only became fascists the day they killed their first victims. All those nazi propagandists and theorists were actually blameless because they didn’t personally assault anyone publicly, which is famously the only form of violence.

Upvoting for the first reasonable thing you’ve said in this entire exchange.

Real mature lmao. You got me. You must have done some real deep historical analysis and gotten a whole lot done over there to feel so much authority to say what works and what doesn’t. I can’t believe your city doesn’t listen to you! You clearly have all the answers… I guess they’re just stinky meany heads and there’s no systemic reason for that whatsoever, at least not one worth questioning.

Man, gee whiz, you really set me straight!! I can’t believe leftists aren’t out there handing out pamphlets!! How can they expect any change or crumbs to fall out of our unflinchingly static system if they aren’t handing out pamphlets!? If we just vote for the right politician, and hand out enough of the right pamphlets, surely they will betray their own class interests simply out of selflessness and a strong sense of moral duty!

The carrot’s right there, I even got a taste of it once! Hey, stupid leftists, stop going after the guy with the stick. I can’t get the carrot while he’s beating us with the stick!!! The stick guy said we might even get the whole carrot if we just jump high enough!! They’re simple rules, why don’t you just follow them?!

edit: also, sorry, I just can’t get over how silly you’re being over very minor transgressions. It’s very funny to me that you decided to equate “actual organizing, direct action, education, mobilization” with not engaging with community at all or pressing government for change, because I gave support with very minimal critique of mutual aid specifically.

I guess nothing else matters if I’m not committing time and money I don’t have to do chores for my neighbors. Anyways, why bother fighting for a world where as-needed aid is baked into the system? If we just do enough mutual aid then we’ll never need the government to respond to our demands! Is that the logic? I guess anyone living paycheck-to-paycheck can forget about doing any resistance whatsoever. Lmfao. Very serious and hopeful person over here.

You sure are having fun being mad over a single word when you still compared humans to controlling the population of dogs. The word “sterilize” does not improve the ethics here in the slightest. Euthanasea is not a very far leap to make once you’ve done the work of, I repeat, reducing human beings to the level of dogs. But nevermind that. Nevermind the indigenous people, blacks, immigrants, and so on, that have been sterilized against their will. That was actually to reduce suffering, you see, and not fascist at all!! Nevermind the 8 other paragraphs I wrote about why that’s unnecessary in the first place and is more an expression of your contempt for humanity than it is an actual solution to anything.

What a weird thing to gloat about and not think about the real world implications of in any way whatsoever! I am the one who cares about words, my words say absolutely nothing about me at all! Soothe your ego and backtrack because you have been called out and bested in debate! Bet you feel real bad right now!! Lmfao you fascists are so funny sometimes.

Anyways, I’m busy fighting fascists like you in real material ways. Kindly fuck off and have the day you’re very clearly already having.

Thank you for making my point. You can think what you want. Mutual aid is great, and it’s great you have the means for it, but it’s a band aid at best and it isn’t an organized movement aimed at addressing the fact that our system is more dedicated to the needs of capital than it is to the needs of people. That’s why the city won’t do shit, because they aren’t serving you.

Sure, and you let me know when your city council; or any politician at any level of government for that matter; does anything to materially improve conditions for the working class, completely unprompted by working class people organizing and making demands. And you let me know too if they are faithful to those demands and give any credit to the organizations that pushed it through, or give just enough to shut people up and present it as if it was all part of their plan the whole time.

Sure, we have leftists in America; we just removed on Lemmy instead of actually stand on street corners handing out pamphlets.

lmao, speak for yourself dude. There are plenty organizations doing this work; not just handing out pamphlets but actual organizing, direct action, education, mobilization, etc; you just haven’t gone looking for them and by default you exist in an ecosystem that suppresses them from your view.

lmfao project harder fascist

and while you’re at it, pick up a fucking book. Your reading comprehension is atrocious.

That’s wild of you to think that not wanting kids is facism.

That’s an insane reduction of my argument

I’m merely emphasizing the ridiculous of your claim that one can only improve the world by birthing kids and raising them to do good. You don’t have to birth kids to do that, just fuckin do it yourself.

That’s also not what I said, and “just fuckin do it” is the point I was making. I was saying that having kids and raising them in that way had relatively better potential to reduce suffering than not having kids at all, not that it was the only or most effective way to do it.

You clearly didn’t read or try to engage with what I wrote. You’re the one that compared human population control to euthanizing dogs, as if that would actually solve anything, and refused to elaborate when I pointed out that it wouldn’t. I’m not the one in bad faith here and I’m done responding to this thread. No, I don’t care to learn about ideologies that seek to “improve” the human condition by removing humans from the equation that aren’t even materially responsible for these conditions in the first place.