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Cake day: July 2nd, 2023

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  • Really depends on your values and desired lifestyle. I think you’d be very surprised how the rest of the world lives. It’s not all terrible out there. Also very dependent on socio-economic status, there are some truly terrible living conditions in the USA for way more people than there should be.

    Stroll through your nearest city “ghetto” and see first hand how some live. Or take your pick of squalor. It’s not pretty and I’m not talking out my ass. I’ve slept in some questionable places in my life. Nothing that ever felt truly dangerous but very bad living situations.

    Anyways, I’m just saying we have a lot of room for improvement.





  • Well, you’re either actively trolling me or yourself at this point because obviously the absence of that word - while describing one - isn’t some gotcha.

    Ok, sure it doesn’t have that specific word but it sure does have a description of one. Giving you the benefit of the doubt, I understand being wrapped up in biblical text and trying to defend it. Having faith and it being “attacked” can be hard and feels bad. I’m not trying to beat you up but take a step back and look at the whole picture.


  • Ok well you’re just being purposely obtuse if you think being made to drink a prepared water after committing adultery and then proceeding to miscarry doesn’t mean you were pregnant.

    They’re not exactly using contraception.

    Regardless of the translation, it’s pretty clear these are instructions on how to treat an adulterous woman and cause a miscarriage.


  • Dude what, no, it’s saying hey if you’re not preggers you can still make a baby. If you’ve “defiled [your]self” then you’re gonna have an abortion when you drink that water. Very explicitly that’s what is being communicated through the text.

    Dancing around translations is just some hand waving bullshit, also maybe we should consider the text isn’t some infallible word of God when you’re saying a different translation changes the meaning of passages. Just as an aside.

    I just picked the first translation the Google search gave. Feel free to read your same thing phrased some other way in another translation.

    Besides that is the only thing the Bible actually says about abortion. The anti abortion stuff is a very modern thing.




  • Yeah, no judgment but it sounds like it definitely comes down to lifestyle choices. For example, renting a place vs living in the camper. Hauling vs delivery and stockpile.

    Obviously the choices you make and life you live are your own and valid. Sometimes I wonder how much of a problem and stress on the planet my life in suburbia is. I need to have a car to just survive. It’s all my choice and the wife too of course but I do feel like a hypocrite many days of my life.