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Certainly a little more than I was hoping for ($1599 + tax) but with those specs I can stop carrying my steam deck most days and use with GameNative. A lot of support for this SoC out there from the ayn brand. That and can get some decent longevity with it. Eventually will become a little micro home server for me like my other old phones.
Additionally curious about this https://www.qualcomm.com/developer/blog/2026/10/same-day-snapdragon-8-elite-gen-6-upstream-linux-support
So it’s going to fail and they’re going to blame Graphene
Looks like it
At least the rumors that it’d be a foldable seem to be wrong.
It’s also initially launching with android 17. The article said that Graphene won’t be ready for it until some time next year. I wonder if the devs are deliberately putting some separation between the hardware launch and OS availability so that they can avoid getting caught up in Motorola’s corporate panic attack when this thing doesn’t sell.
At least the rumors that it’d be a foldable seem to be wrong.
Only priced like one, unfortunately
The foldable is the next one to get support after signature 27.
It doesn’t release with graphene os so that would be stupid, it ships their android.
Not offering a pre-installed GrapheneOS version feels like a misstep. Plenty of people are aware of the brand for security and privacy, and would pay extra to have it pre-installed.
Maybe we will see some re-sellers pop up, but I would prefer direct-from-manufacturer.
Not to mention, they could get the keys right from day one and eliminate (Google’s) “alternate OS is booting” boogieman screen.
Plenty of people are aware of the brand for security and privacy, and would pay extra to have it pre-installed.
This is pure cope, there is no way “plenty of people” are lining up to pay this amount of money for a Motorola phone with a niche operating system.
Just because something isn’t mainstream doesn’t mean it would not make plenty of money.
As was pointed out above, Motorola probably underestimates the casual folks who would pay extra to have GrapheneOS pre-installed, because the GrapheneOS developers are so rabidly against trusting anyone else to do the install.
But many GrapheneOS users just like having a qucik toggle for the microphone and camera.
(Side question: Why the fuck hasn’t such a basic privacy feature made it into basic Android, anyway? Or has it, and I missed it?)
And yes, there’s always a buyer for a phone this expensive. For some people, it will be their only computer for five to ten years, anyway.
They aren’t shipped with GrapheneOS because the developers of GrapheneOS explicitly don’t want this. They dont want any possibility of some backdoor caused by the manufacturer to bring down their reputation.
It not being shipped with GrapheneOS is on purpose.
Yes. I’m waiting for a chill fork of GrapheneOS. I love what the developers have accomplished. LineageOS seems close, but not quite there with features, last I checked.
I was happy with decent default security and privacy in the past, and I could be, again, if it ever returns.
I would be glad to purchase a device from a trusted party, who pre-installed public source code, on open hardware.
I’ll be very pleased if Framework ever releases a phone.
And sure, most people, in general, are clueless, about most things. Point granted.
But the people with a clue about today’s brutal privacy situation want device that is reasonably assured to be respect their wishes, and not chained to the whim of some asshole CEO.
Perfect is lovely. But good enough can still sell very well.
Fairphone with /e/os
Not having it support tap to pay basically makes it a non starting for selling it.
The amount of stupid selling a phone with out that feature, while the same phone other times it works basically would just cause endless problems.
Yes people are that stupid
Completely wrong target for GrapheneOS. The GrapheneOS demographics, which I belong to, isn’t interested in high-end phones. They want a no nonsense simple phone with lots of storage and security first design.
- fancy AMOLED screen: don’t care
- 5 fancy cameras: don’t care
- super powerful CPU and GPU: don’t care
- storage space: yes please, I have photos and music to store locally!
This will be harmful to GrapheneOS project. It will go like this: no one buys the phone because it’s too damn expensive and full of features the privacy nerds like me don’t care about. Even fewer buy the phone with GrapheneOS pre-installed and it’s a total flop. Motorola stops the partnership saying “we did it and no one wanted it”. No other OEM wants to partner with GrapheneOS after that.
Nobody’s gonna buy it, but Motorola gets to say they tried and there just wasn’t a market for GrapheneOS.
I’d like to have one, but there’s no fucking way a goddamned PHONE is worth $2000
especially today, when updates are so miniscule, I’m in shock when I realize the pixel 7 I got refurbished still works fine, with zero reason to update.
Yep, been doing used pixels for a while now. They’re all the same anyway. I don’t care about the camera.
My kids are dopes and constantly break screens so I’m not about to buy anything nice. We all have the same model and a spare. Broken, eBay screen, bring in the spare, fix the broken one, is now the spare.
You’ll get a new phone when it doesn’t get updates anymore, then you’ll just get the next one up.
Spending more than $300 on a phone is nuts to me. They’re all the same candy bar anyway.
A brand new phone should cost at most 499 US. anything beyond that is good damn stupid.
Personally, I already balked at the size of the screen (~6.8"). The ridiculous price is just the final nail in the coffin.
Mini tablets were 7 inches.
It’s ridiculous; how am I meant to fit something half the size of my dick in my pocket?
How am I meant to fit something seven times the size of my dick in my pocket?
Did you try tucking?
Wait, is this really the size of a nexus 7?
phones have a different aspect ratio than tablets plus the nexus 7 had giant bezels
Fair point on the bezels.
Yeah, I hate that Jeff Bezels guy too!
Just let it hang and sway, let it out bro. This is 🦅 America 🇺🇸, bitches! gunfire, big macs showering from the sky, and jets flying over in formation
(and if you don’t live here then we can bring you some freedom too, and you too can let your freak flag fly)
and if you don’t live here then we can bring you some freedom too
No thanks. I live in a country freer than the US, you guys keep all that to yourselves.
can i come over to play vidya
Sure, just stay for 90 days only.
EDIT : you can smoke the legal weed only if someone gives it to you for free, you can’t buy any.
More big macs for me 😎
Yikes, I hadn’t looked into the screen size until you mentioned it. They seem to be going after the XL / tablet size type of devices, exactly the ones that I avoid. Oh well, maybe they’ll eventually release a phone with a more normal screen size closer to 6.3".
Couldn’t agree more. I’m currently on the Pixel 6a, and in spite of having perfectly average-sized hands, I feel its 6.1" display is unwieldy. 6.8" is just bonkers.
I’d love a giant screen. I miss my nexus 6.
Oh my damn. I expected something expensive, but this is just way above what I expected.
The Graphene developers did say that future plans could entail even broader Motorola support from GrapheneOS, for cheaper models too. Let’s hope this will be the case…
I’m holding out for a 2027 Moto G.
Give me Edge 60 Neo with graphene and I’d be happy. Small, good battery, good screen, ok-ish camera, nothing else needed.
Yeah it seems to boil down to MTE. Only the latest Flagship Qualcomm Gen6 has it (sans tensor).
So until qualcomms midrange offerings start having MTE we’ll be waiting.
1900 euros for 512 gb with no sd card slot. 24-bit/192kHz audio support, but no headphone jack. Why even bother?
I really hope the next generation of Moto G gets graphene support. Somehow their low end phones end up with more useful features than the flagships.
What is the point of a 1900€ phone? What is the target audience? How is it better than a 500€ phone?
Questions more towards Motorola than Graphene, but I doubt the Graphene foundation went into the partnership without knowing what kinds of specific phones would be covered.
Security isn’t for poor people I guess
What the fuck is the point? Like really what the fuck??? Just make an affordable phone is it really that fucking hard??? Sorry for cruising so much but what the actual fuck??? LiKe is it actually hard to conceptualize common sense now a-days??? Like girl we’re 27 and broke and your telling us not only of we want out of the hellscape of Apple vs Android bullshit we either gotta make out own phone or pay 2k€ for a fucking phone?! FOR A PHONE!!! We’ve only bought 1 new phone EVER only purchased pre-used phones and they’ve all been old and even this “new” phone was old when we got it 😭 we’ve been stuck on this shitty ios phone stuff too fucking long and been waiting for like any good android phone and was looking at this like holy shit finally AND NOW IT’S 2 FUCN K EUROS!!!
Another 5 years on the iPhone 12 mini ig
Motherfuckers. I would have paid 1k - but that is ridiculous
I have a pixel 10 with 16gb RAM. Nothing has made changing realistic and likely wont for awhile. I hate AI and only wantgOS and a decent camera.
I just refuse to buy anything at these inflated hardware prices due to the AI pandemic.
I’ll just keep all my old tech… Someone is profiting and i’m not getting a better product for it.Agreed. The worst is the components for self hosting and builfing your own gear is also caught in this. Raspberry Pi prices are crazy
Yup. I really need to upgrade my server it’s 4 core xeon from 2016. But it’ll hold out another few years i’m sure!
I got a pi for HA and another for an arr stack. €200 and I got a great price on them pi400 rgb and pi 16gb.
I would love a nuc and get jellyfin on it.
How brainrotted do you have to be to spend that much on a phone with a sealed in 2-year battery?
Who are the customers for such a ridiculous thing?
Drug lords
As someone whos grew up on iPhones this feels reasonable for a high end product…
Reasonable is $900. Just because apple made a $2000 phone doesn’t mean everyone does.
I had a Nexus 4 for $300 way back when, and that was mighty premium enough. We’re all getting screwed and there is no savior. The water has been boiling for over a decade.
My current phone cost $500 and it’s more than powerful & capable enough. Android sucks to use but other than that I have no idea why anyone would get anything more expensive unless they need some really good camera.
Android does suck but is superior to iOS. If only linux was realistic on a phone.
Jolla phone, with SailfishOS exists. Mine will be sent out soon!
I’m typing this from my jolla phone right now! It’s definitely not perfect but I’m really happy with it, and it has totally replaced my android phone at this point.
Mine too! The Sept II batch!
I am intrigued for sure, I want to try them out but none of my drawer phones suit it or postmarket.
There a few limitations, banking, camera, car projection. But they are getting better.
Samsung does too, the aim is office workers in European + USA, which gets a new phone sponsored every few years
Is it? It costs more than any (bar-style) iPhone. This is priced less than the Oppo X9 Ultra and Vivo X300 Ultra, similarly to the Samsung Galaxy S26 Ultra and the Xiaomi 17 Ultra, and priced more than the Apple iPhone 18 Pro Max and Google Pixel 11 Pro XL –the problem is the subsect of people who are happy paying this price and cares about privacy are abysmally minute.
This is the normal cost of a new phone no? If I were buying an Iphone or a samsung i’d expect to pay around the same price.
When I bought my just-barely-not-current-gen ipad pro, it was 1100€.
This phone is more than 60% more expensive than that. I can’t imagine buying a mobile device that costs this much
Oh I did not notice that was in Euro. Jesus christ
My phone actually is a Samsung and was around €400. It works fine, and does all things I want my phone to do without any issues. The only improvement I’d care even marginally about would be a better set of cameras, but until they’d actually be on par with my “real” camera that’s not something I’m willing to pay for.
Yeah the current high end Samsung galaxy ultra is about the same price in Australia.
This is marginally more expensive than flagship phones, but it’s not clear how performance will compare.
I wonder how much of this higher price point is due to the lack of partnerships with companies like Google who will harvest information about you through the device.
There is no phone on earth that should cost 2000 fucking dollars
