• HerbGrower@slrpnk.net
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    19 days ago

    Currently, but a large part of that cost is due to energy prices. If you have cheaper energy, or periods of excess energy that bring the cost down to/near zero, that is what brings down the cost.

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      19 days ago

      if only we actually got there… here the prices have been climbing more and more the more wind turbines we install because of grid instability.

      honestly a great pilot area for energy storage.

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        19 days ago

        Variable tariffs are an option here and can give you periods of very cheap, free or even negative cost energy.

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          18 days ago

          Think of negative cost energy as paying someone to dispose of something you don’t need, like how trash haulers get paid to take stuff away.

          If we get to the point where we have a bunch of generation for peak demand plus storage, and still have excess energy in other times, we can and should investigate fixing that excess energy into stable chemical molecules that are useful for other things (whether it’s good for a material, for energy storage, for some other consumable like fertilizer, or even simply reversing carbon emissions by fixing carbon into stable non-CO2 compounds).

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          18 days ago

          here too, but it doesn’t really help the people who live in apartments :(

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            18 days ago

            No but I don’t expect you to make hydrogen or ammonia in your apartment beyond perhaps some hydrogen chemistry experiments for fun. Ammonia is probably a bit much to do at home.

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              18 days ago

              depends on what i had the night before

              Edit: i was thinking more of the flexible tariffs…