• ☂️-@lemmy.ml
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    13 days ago

    it’s so frustrating how they know we hate it, so they push it in a more aggressive inescapable way.

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    We decided to just trick people into accepting it because it was a lot easier than trying to explain how it’s in their best interest, since it isn’t.

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    By the time you are livestreaming on twitch one would assume all caution regarding feeding the beast has long left the room and few fucks will be given.

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        unfortunately feeding the beast was normalized long ago

        there was some resistance in the early 2000’s but we got lazy and want cheap flights, easy ways to pay for shit and real time maps so gave it all up for lolz

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          those didnt generate slop and steal from creators

          generative AI is different

          i think it can be useful in some situations but i think it should be trained ethically

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            There was no need to steal, people willing gave access into every facet of their lives from banking to socials to spotify.

            We were generating the slop and feeding it to the beast on a grand scale for decades, now the beast is vomiting all the slop back up.

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    Every European which user should now use its GDPR rights and ask them what data they have of us and what they do with it.

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        That also is illegal in Europe. They must answer those questions. That is Our right ad a European citizen. They can not sanction you for this.

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    At least they’re being honest about it. 99% of the companies training AI or selling people’s data to AI companies are doing so without telling anyone.

    Having said that, Twitch streams are public almost all of the time so complaining that they’re being used in ways the creator never intended is a bit like complaining that someone caught you picking your nose in public.

    We learned this lesson in the 90s: Once something goes public on the Internet, it is no longer under the creator’s/publisher’s control. People can and will do whatever TF they want with it. As long as they’re not redistributing it without permission, that is legal.

    It’s everyone’s right to do whatever TF they want with the stuff that’s literally sent to their computer on purpose. That includes using that thing to train AI.

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      people have always been against stealing creators’ content

      now some of y’all for some reason are fine with it if it’s a multi trillion dollar company doing the stealing :|

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      It’s everyone’s right to do whatever TF they want with the stuff that’s literally sent to their computer on purpose. That includes using that thing to train AI.

      Exactly. As long as they don’t sell it or anything directly derived from it for profit afterwards. Else that would be copyright infringement, as has been tested in court thousands of times.

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    tiktok does this, reddit does this.
    discord says they wont sell your data, but doesnt say wether they use it to train their own AI