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Peter Thiel, Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos and Sam Altman for those who don’t want to click through.
And I have no idea which I would choose to face off from those four, let alone who would win.
You could put them in a sack and hit the sack with a stick. You’d never hit the wrong guy.
I like this idea much better than picking one of them as the worst person in tech for 2023. Can we do the stick beating instead?
But we definitely need to have Zuck in there too. And maybe Thiel, as a special guest.
The more the merrier!
Could I? Yayyyy!
Whack. Whack. Whack. Whack. Whack. Whack. Whack. Whack.
No matter who wins we all lose. That’s kind of the point whenever these guys turn up.
Well, and sadly, said.
Theil wants a techno libertarian oligarchy with no regulations ala Blade Runner.
Musk wants the rich to escape to Mars while destroying earth and dooming the poor’s.
Bezos wants to send the poor’s into space along with heavy industry and turn earth into a rich person paradise ala Black Mirror “Fifteen Million Merits”.
Altman is just a shitty rich person in tech wasting precious resources to teach a computer to create porn. Becaue we all know that’s what 99% of people do and will use AI for. He’s also a prepper which means he’s a selfish cunt.
If I had to pick just one it would be Theil. I think the man is insidious while the rest are more in your face.
Ranked choice would be Theil, Musk, Bezos then Altman.
I love your descriptions for all of them. If you have some free time would you mind writing it for everyone in the brackets?
I’m shocked that Sam Altman won out over SBF
Sam Bankman-Fried is definitely bad for what he did and his belief in effective altruism, which is just another smoke screen to not properly tax rich people because they “donate to charities”. You could argue his getting into crypto also makes him bad because crypto mining is bad but he’s not on the same level as Sam Altman. Not even close.
I’d rather pick someone who did something deserving of life in prison than someone who didn’t, but maybe that’s just me.
Also, Sam Altman has no equity in, and was only paid $73k by OpenAI last year. You can dislike him for the rumors surrounding his managerial style and whatnot, but it’s pretty clear he isn’t exploiting people to get shit rich like everyone else on this list.
I don’t.
Altman is just a shitty rich person in tech wasting precious resources to teach a computer to create porn. Becaue we all know that’s what 99% of people do and will use AI for. He’s also a prepper which means he’s a selfish cunt.
If he wasn’t promoting AI and trying to sell it as the next best thing to sliced bread he’d just be a shitty rich prepper. Instead he is wasting time and resources on AI.
And my personal bias against crypto really lowers my “give a fuck” bar so while, again, what he did is bad I don’t care if he defrauded a bunch of crypto cunts. Same as I don’t care about people “loosing” their NFT’s.
Instead he is wasting time and resources on AI.
Under what circumstances would AI research and training not be considered a waste of time and resources, in your mind?
I don’t care if he defrauded a bunch of crypto cunts
Well, his whole ballgame was selling crypto to normal people, not cryptobros. Do you really think the FTX Super Bowl commercial was targeted at people who can articulate the differences in technology between Bitcoin and Ethereum?
Under what circumstances would AI research and training not be considered a waste of time and resources, in your mind?
Right now? None.
Well, his whole ballgame was selling crypto to normal people, not cryptobros.
All the same crypto cunts to me. Doesn’t matter if you mine, trade, marry or fuck crypto they are all the same cunts to me.
Do you really think the FTX Super Bowl commercial was targeted at people who can articulate the differences in technology between Bitcoin and Ethereum?
I don’t watch any sports and few to no ads so I have no idea what you are talking about.
SBF hasn’t been in the headlines as much recently.
To make things slightly easier it’s Musk v Thiel and Bezos v Altman.
In the first matchup, I would pick Musk over Thiel for being a bigger POS in general.
In the second matchup I would pick Bezos for the larger impact he has had on the world.
I’m with you on the second, but I would have a really hard time with the first because Musk is more overtly a piece of shit, but Thiel has had so much influence over the years, including elevating Elon Musk to the position where he is today. I guess if it’s the worst of 2023 and we’re restricting it solely to what we know they’ve said and done in 2023, it would be Musk. But I think overall, it is probably Thiel just because there wouldn’t be an Elon Musk anyone had heard about without Peter Thiel.
In the first matchup, I would pick Musk over Thiel for being a bigger POS in general.
But Musk’s acquisition of Twitter is in itself subservient to Theil’s overarching political goals. One has been in the limelight more, but the other has caused more harm overall.
What did Thiel do to make the internet hate him as much as the other three?
So, so, so many things.
Let’s start with him saying women getting the vote was bad for democracy and we can continue on from there.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/peter-thiel-women-democracy_n_5747079be4b03ede4413f6f5
It’s a full time job to answer completely, but from what I know he finances escape fantasies for the rich which they call seasteading. He calls it a libertarian ideal to create these new colonial city states, but what he means is liberty for his ilk from taxes, regulation and societal rules. Meanwhile his brainchild Palantir erodes the rights of the poor people who are left behind through surveillance, military technology and ICE funding. But this is all in line with his ideology, because apartheid “works” in South Africa according to Thiel
Why do people hate Altman? Genuinely OOTL.
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I think I’d say Thiel is worse than Musk. He supports anti-gay politicians while being gay himself. Tax cuts are more important than having the law treat people as human beings.
It’s possible that Musk might fail to understand exactly how shitty he’s being due to his autism, I’m pretty sure Thiel knows he’s fucking people over and doesn’t care. Also the whole bloodboy thing.
He isn’t autistic. He simply said he is. Which makes him a giant piece of shit.
According to his biographer, he’s wildly bipolar.
At least Musk is so loud and obnoxious that it’s easy to avoid him. Lex Luthor sits over there at Amazon quietly taking over the world and almost nobody gives him a second thought.
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How could anyone but musk win?
Peter Thiel is also abysmal. Elon is more visibly terrible today but Thiel has been bankrolling regressives from the shadows for 20 years. He published his first screed about diversity in academia in 1995. So he is an all-time shitstain, for sure.
Depends on if we consider Zuccer a person.
Zuck is bad sure, but he’s not a jackass, at least not publicly, he might not have made the best decision for meta but the company is by no means failing, Elon is just so much worse on every level.
Not failing, but actively ignoring Metas own research that shows Facebook is directly harmful to children and teens.
I’d say actively continuing to harm children should outrank being a jackass and/or incompetence.
At this point it’s like choosing cancer over Alzheimer’s. Die from excruciating inner torment or infuriate everyone else until you die.
I dunno, some of these votes are like comparing stage 4 leukemia to a mere urinary tract infection, and the UTI is somehow winning.
Go UTI!
No spez?
He’s small time. He’s ruining one big-ish social platform. While people like Zuck are ruining many!
How is it that every bracket isn’t just “Elon Musk”?
Thiel’s worse, he just hasn’t made a celebrity of himself
Musk shouldn’t have won against Ellison. Musk is an uncontrolled trainwreck, sure, but Ellison is a highly controlled and effective lawnmower. He’s just better at not being known.
Very amusing. I still know barely anything about him, but I’m thoroughly convinced.
How did Nadella lose to Altman? Nadella is the reason Altman is what it is now. The reason open ai is not anymore an independent no profit research team to push open AI solutions.
He’s the king maker of evil tech. Nadella vs Musk is the only possible final. Whoever voted is insulting one of 2 main contenders. Like CEO of BP losing to a gas pump owner
It’s almost as if this is the most popular worst tech person. It’s like that year all of Reddit voted EA the worst company in the world. There are companies out there costing people their lives by intentional malfeasance but a company is doing video games dirty is the worst…
Too bad Zuckerberg is about to feast on our data now that Threads has federated
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Information is cached on servers in the fediverse through connections. You can’t just make an empty server and harvest all of the data. Now if you’ve secure millions of accounts on the Fediverse like threads is doing, then you have access to everything.
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How is every bracket not Elon Musk?
That’s not how brackets work?
bezos
the heck, how did altman get so far? not that hes an angel(by far no), but someone like SBF did way worse imo
No unity ex ceo?
He’s a small time capitalist. These guys have society shaping power and wealth
I agree with you, but in 2023 unity fuck up was one of the major events cause most developers used unity and still continue using it
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The worst person in tech is a choice between a bunch of people who are working together to make things worse for everyone else?
Well if the title is for just 2023 I think musk has it, if we take overall negative impact in a lifetime then I’m not sure but musk is probably not as bad.
So much names i never ever heard before and i dont wanna look up, after knowing what a fucker musk is (also he wil win)
