• ObjectivityIncarnate@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    The reason no one dates incels is not because of their body type, or because they’re nerds, or any other excuse they can think of, it’s because they’re pieces of shit and it reflects on their personality, and no one likes people who have a shitty personality.

    There are plenty of people who are incels that do not fit this definition, and it does no one any good (you making yourself feel morally superior doesn’t count) to generalize them all based on Internet stereotypes.

    What if anxiety and/or trauma prevents you from being able to even try to initiate romantic contact with someone, or ever allow yourself to be vulnerable to the degree required to make any sort of actual connection? Does that make you a “piece of shit”, too?

    The majority of people who have no sex/relationships, against their will, are not the stereotypical “incel”.

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      1 day ago

      Obviously I’m talking about people who DO fit the internet incel stereotype, who would act like the man in the damn comic. I don’t know how you managed to pull out something completely irrelevant when I’m on topic.

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        “When I call ‘women’ pieces of shit, I’m only talking about the bad ones”

        Why do I get the impression you wouldn’t find something like the above convincing if you were on the other end of it?

        This is the mentality of a racist who calls a black friend ‘one of the good ones’.

        ‘I only meant the bad ones’ is not justification for making generalizations about any demographic.

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          I literally made NO REFERENCE to people with social anxiety whatsoever. I HAVE IT. Everyone who mentions incels in the internet is talking about the ones we see in the fucking internet. Someone not getting laid is not automatically an “incel” in the internet sense unless they feel entitled to women’s bodies.

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            I literally made NO REFERENCE to people with social anxiety whatsoever.

            Yes, I am aware that you painted “incel” with only the stereotypical brush strokes.

            Everyone who mentions incels in the internet is talking about the ones we see in the fucking internet.

            Not everyone. This is the same as someone denigrating “feminists” by talking about all of the stereotypical man-hating behavior, and then when someone replies “hey, there are plenty of feminists who don’t act like that, most even, you shouldn’t generalize”, that person responds saying “everyone who mentions feminists on the internet is only talking about the stereotypical ones”.

            ‘I just meant the bad ones’ is not justification for generalizing, period.