On this episode of The Vergecast, we figure out passkeys once and for all.

Passkeys: how do they work? No, like, seriously. It’s clear that the industry is increasingly betting on passkeys as a replacement for passwords, a way to use the internet that is both more secure and more user-friendly. But for all that upside, it’s not always clear how we, the normal human users, are supposed to use passkeys. You’re telling me it’s just a thing… that lives on my phone? What if I lose my phone? What if you steal my phone?

    • Gladaed@feddit.deEnglish
      9·
      11 months ago

      You are not supposed to have relation between the words. This password is vulnerable to a dictionary attack. If you are not a high value target you should still be OK.

    • Patches@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      6·
      11 months ago

      We’re supposed to take security advice from someone for freely gave their password out?

      But in all seriousness yes phrases are better. You don’t need the money symbol 1234t67890 especially if it makes it harder to remember.

      You can even have each phrase be the website. TargetSucksMonkeyDick, BestBuySucksMonkeyDick are secure passwords.

      • LastYearsPumpkin@feddit.chEnglish
        71·
        11 months ago

        Which is KIND OF ok unless someone looks at a password breech list and figures out your super simple pattern. And I’m sure the rise of AI being used in password breech attacks will just make it more automated.

        Real, true, random passwords/tokens is really the only way to actually be safe. Which means you have to use a password generator, AND something to save the password.

        • leftzero@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
          1·
          11 months ago

          unless someone looks at a password breech list and figures out your super simple pattern.

          Don’t simply put the site’s name there. Put a similar sounding easy to remember word, a synonym, rhyming slang, the first and last letters of the site’s name plus the number of letters in the domain name, whatever.

    • LastYearsPumpkin@feddit.chEnglish
      72·
      11 months ago

      Then one password breech and your password everywhere is exposed to the world. That’s bad advice.

      • johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        11 months ago

        Yeah password re-use is the main method of cracking passwords. That obscure site that you think “oh I don’t need a good password for this because it’s a site I don’t care about”? Guess what, they have shitty security practices, and now crackers have access to every site where you’ve used that same password.

    • butterflyattack@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      11 months ago

      Phrases are definitely more memorable than forcing people to use capitals, numbers, symbols, all that shit. But there are just so many passwords to remember.