• trippingonthewire@lemmy.ml
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    11 months ago

    Yk, I’ll play devils advocate and say that I see the good in this. People with disabilities will finally be able to do things.

    But, governments will definitely love this. And the proprietary technology would definitely be spying on people, no surprise there.

    I’m really afraid it could become a mandate to get in the future (gotta learn how to survive in the woods.)

    So overall, it has good potential but would definitely be used for harm. I think it’s a net negative.

  • AVincentInSpace@pawb.social
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    1 year ago

    The difference is that it’s consensual, you libtard.

    Now try not to think about those monkeys we’re testing the product on and whether it was consensual for them.

    /s if it wasn’t obvious

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      Just because you have someone’s consent, doesn’t make whatever you do to them legal.

      For example, you can sign a contract to allow me to bludgeon you to death, but it’s still murder regardless of your consent.

      Frankly, Elon has killed enough animals in this endeavor that it’s unconscionable to allow him to test it on people. It’s only going to end poorly.

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        you can sign a contract to allow me to bludgeon you to death, but it’s still murder regardless of your consent

        I agree this is the current law. But I certainly don’t agree with this law. Do you?

        I feel people should absolutely be allowed to consent to death, or potential death. And I mean, we already can in various other contexts like skiing in avalanche terrain, ordering too many big macs, or medically assisted suicide to prevent suffering from incurable conditions (at least in a few civilized places).

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          Yeah we have that in Canada, you can choose to end it with doctor help via the MAID program. Lets people die with dignity.

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          You’re talking to someone whose wife died 4 months ago (at 34 years old), from one of those incurable conditions. I’ll let you guess how I feel about allowing people to end their life on their terms.

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            I’m confident you strongly support allowing it as I have never met someone who witnessed a loved one suffer like that and does not support lessening their suffering.

            So since you support allowing people to end their own lives in that context, you understand that people can indeed consent to death. So perhaps consenting to death should be permitted in other contexts too. That’s the only point I was making.

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          I understand your point. I think people should be able to consent to that, but how do you assure they don’t do this because they get forced to agree?

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            The same way we assure people consenting to anything at all are not being forced to. We try our best basically. And sometimes we’ll probably get it wrong and need to improve. I’m completely ok with that when the alternative is guaranteed preventable suffering. Just like I’m ok with people using power of attorney to protect the finances of people with dementia, even if sometimes it gets misapplied.

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      1 year ago

      You are free to get the chip or not.

      But if you refuse the chip then you might lose your job, or your ability to shop.

      It will be the new cellphone.

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    1 year ago

    All I’m seeing is ads streamed directly to the brain with no way but one to stop it, assuming that instinct doesn’t get neurologically suppressed.

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      Neuralink aims to help people with paralysis communicate by allowing them to remotely control devices using brain activity. In the future, Neuralink may help enhance user memory and cognitive abilities, restore a user’s motor, sensory and visual functions as well as treat neurological disorders.

      It’s for paralyzed people and neuralink isn’t the only company researching the technology. I swear, where the fuck do you people get your information from, and how do you just never bother to google it to see for yourselves?

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        No, Neuralink is for stupid Elmo fanboys to waste money and health on and allow Elmo to continue executing his fascist anti-human agenda. And yes, other companies actually try to make devices that will help people. It’s not about the technology, it’s about that motherfucking shit-golem and the way he treats people (hint: like expandable cheap renewable resources). But if you like that fuck so much, I hope you’ll be one of the people leaving Earth and following him to Mars. I actually can’t wait that day to happen. We used to joke how great it would be to put all fascist into a space rocker and launch them into space, and it will soon not only become reality, but the stupid fucks will go willingly. Perfect!

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          Me “it’s meant to help paralyzed people move and walk and live again, something previously deemed impossible”

          You: goes off on some wild Elon musk fueled rage and says nothing about the point of the product

          You might need to seek help if you get this worked up over something that heals people…

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      You don’t have to worry about that, It’s an Elon Musk owned product, he already solved that with TwiXer. He just has to make sure that Nazi’s can send their propoganda to your brain, and then advertisers will stay very far away from the neuro link.

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    Man, I don’t know what right wingers y’all are talking about.

    I come from a super right wing family and all them MFs think this is a bad idea too (though to be fair, they’re def on the conspiracy theory “everything is to get a microchip in my blood/brain” side of things).

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      I come from a super-right wing family too (but from Europe) and they really are in love Elon because it’s like “a dog being out of control” in the billionaire group, the one who is brave enough to go against the rules, defying the “cancel culture” and the unidirectional thinking imposed by political correctness.

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        That’s interesting to hear. I wouldn’t have expected Europeans would have thought about ol’ Elon that much.

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          In general I would argue that he has a good reputation, due to good marketing mostly. A great lot of people see him as some sort of “illuminated visionary” who fosters innovation for the Good™ and will save humanity with SpaceX, Tesla, etc. [I don’t agree personally to any of it but that’s another story].

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            Ugh, yeah, I don’t hate the guy, but I also think that anyone who still thinks he’s a visionary hasn’t actually been paying attention to his work/how his companies are going lately.

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          no. i suppose you are correct. from what i see they may think he is incompetent, but not evil like bill microsoft gates

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      Honestly I haven’t heard any of my right wing coworkers etc… talk about this particular company, but I have heard a lot of elon worship from them. IE I hear a lot of them talk about how he’s gone so pro free speach with twitter. (and they tend to ignore me when I point out that he’s censoring every bit as much as the old twitter, he’s just nicer to the nazis and less nice to the left.

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        Ugh, yeah, that is a point of frustration I have with the family.

        For them, it’s not so much “look what Musk is doing” so much as “look at how much better Twitter’s gotten”, which is particularly ripe cause none of them even use the platform. As I think on it, that probably means the big Fox talking heads are saying things like that.

        I never got into Twitter myself (just never really understood / took to the format), which is kind of a shame cause I’d really like to be supporting Mastodon in this years surgance of the Fediverse.

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      death penalty for taking any recreational drug that interferes with your mandatory discord feed

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        Yes, but only the lucky ones win death in a raffle (1 in a 1000). The rest are shipped to mines. And their memories are not wiped clean, because the suffering is the integral part of such economy.

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    Nothing against experimenting with this chip in Musk’s brain. It’s always good to start with something simple.

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    This is some really cool tech and I’m happy the trials are starting. It’s a shame having it attached to Elon is ruining the perception of it, I’m hoping other companies get in the game soon.

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      It could help disabled people move… Other than that, I’m unsure about it’s purposes…

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        It can eventually help disabled people move, see, hear and talk.

        For everyday people, this will replace phones and computers completely. We will be able to project a private screen on any surface, even mid air. We will be thinking the words instead of saying them during phonecalls.

        Movies and games are going to be so immersive it’s probably going to cause some serious societal issues. Larping is going to become big I’m guessing.

        That’s just the surface stuff that’s easy to think of. It gets even nuttier if you think about recording and downloading dreams and memories, some of the really sci Fi stuff. The possibilities are literally endless. Obviously though, there’s a way to go, it’s still in its infancy.

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    Reality seems to again be more like Aldous Huxley than George Orwell. We will pay to get these things in our heads eventually.

  • Doctor xNo@r.nf
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    1 year ago

    All conspiracies come true if you spread them and wait long enough… Eventually some crazy rich guy will have heard it and make it real. 😅

    Humans are weird. 😅