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  • Diplomjodler@feddit.de
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    11 months ago

    If the US president got elected by getting the most votes, there wouldn’t have been a Republican since Bush senior. I really don’t understand why electoral reform is not higher on the political agenda in the US.

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      11 months ago

      Having it based purely on a popular vote will still wind up with a 2 party system. Ranked voting needs to be implemented. All of the benefits of a popular vote, with actual checks and balances to elevate 3rd parties.

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      11 months ago

      The Democratic party and Republican party are united in their opposition to electoral reform because they both benefit the most from it.

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      11 months ago

      This was the deal with the devil that people in the North made with people in the South to convince people in the South to join them in a government specifically set up to defy the British. The US as a democracy has always failed because it was designed to give ultimate executive power to the states rather than to the people.

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          11 months ago

          Lol. No. Only the politically ignorant think that the DNC is anything but a power hungry juggernaut, set on choosing candidates based on their own agenda regardless of the will of the people. They don’t even really seem to care if their candidate gets elected.

          I really don’t understand how more of a fuss wasn’t made when they cheated Bernie out of a fair shot, were sued by donors and used the defense “We were so blatantly favoring our favorite that anyone who thought we were being impartial wasn’t paying attention and deserved to be swindled out of their money! Yes, we broke rules to get Sanders out of the running, but we were very obvious about it and they were our own rules and we can break them if we want, so get fucked.” And the court was like… “Yeah… sounds good.”

          https://observer.com/2017/08/court-admits-dnc-and-debbie-wasserman-schulz-rigged-primaries-against-sanders/

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            11 months ago

            You’re still hurting over Bernie. That’s cute.

            Politically that was a long time ago and you’re still holding a grudge over it. This is why the Democrats lose.

            Many on the left needs to be placated with something new every election cycle while the right votes without any hesitation.

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        11 months ago

        The DNC would actually benefit here because the popular vote would always bring in a Democrat. It’s the small, red states that will never let change happen because Wyoming enjoys having more direct representation than California.

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          11 months ago

          The PEOPLE would benefit since they are the ones doing the voting, not the states. It is just as ridiculous that Republicans in California have little say in the presidency as Democrats in Wyoming.

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            11 months ago

            It is just as ridiculous that Republicans in California have little say in the presidency as Democrats in Wyoming.

            The Republicans in California have a better chance of seeing a Republican president with the electoral college than they would with a national popular vote, even if their particular votes carry less weight. In a sense that gives them more representation in the end, not less—their voices are ignored but they get what they wanted anyway.

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        11 months ago

        Or because it would take a constitutional amendment. The only way around that would be making the electoral college irrelevant via the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact which has largely only been signed by democratic leaning states. In fact, of the states that have passed it, zero have been right leaning.

        There are certainly shitty corporate democrats that do fall into your category but to say the party as a whole is that way is ignorant.

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        11 months ago

        That must be why Republican-dominated states have passed the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact. /s