A commune or a cult would be better than this circus lol
Already planning on it here in Canada once my friends and I have the money for what we want to do.
Farming (+greenhousing) and some cottage rentals on the side.
Peace out, modern society!
Cottage rentals for income?
Currently my plan is to get far enough into my career that I can spend half my time in city making money and half in the woods
Exactly, cottage rentals for income. To supplement farming and other ventures, anyway.
I’m lucky that my work is 99.9% remote, so as long as I can acquire a stable internet connect I can continue to work out there if needed. Existing entirely in the woods is incredibly appealing.
I like that idea. Continuing to make money, no matter if it’s just a few hundred dollars a month, is the main hurdle for me to leave. You’d still need to finance construction but it’s a good long term vision.
I am worried about fire seasons/smoke seasons. At best it shortens the tourist season and at worst I lose everything : /
Yeah, that lack of startup capital is why I’m not doing it already. A bunch of us are saving to pool money together to self-finance. You can also just start with a couple of nice trailers (which you wouldn’t be able to charge as much for, of course) and gradually work towards full cottages. Some cottages in areas I frequent around here are just trailers and are still going for like $300 CAD a night in the middle of September.
At least insurance should protect you against total loss?
I’ve thought for a while that it would be cool to buy up a block in a suburb and do urban farming as a community.
see if there are any community gardens in your area. they’re basically what you’re talking about, although usually only the land owner and/or farm manager lives there. my favorite one around here also has a rotating volunteer position who lives on site.
Why not a commune IN the city?
Not saying this is you, but I feel like a lotta people who wanna live in the country also want all the city amenities - internet, garbage pickup, municipal sewage, etc.
To me, the problem isn’t cities, it’s late stage capitalism - gentrifying neighbourhoods, driving rents beyond reach, displacing communities. Plus its zeal for car-focused infrastructure, conspicuous consumption. All that stuff.
Anyway communal life is very appealing - I long for my college days of living in a house full of peers. Even if i’m off-base with my capitalism ruins the city argument, I think we’d all do better at coping with modern life with a wider support network.
I hear they are growing more popular in the bay area? Gideon Lichfield, outgoing editor-in-chief at Wired, mentions he spends half his year living in a commune of sorts and would like to do it full time in this podcast.
If I were younger I’d be looking at Mexico. Elevation and arable land can be found. Aboriginals would have survived if not for guns. And I think it will be a long time before the US ruins them like they do all over the world. I believe you can pretty much survive with 1acre per person in the commune. At least according to Fukuoka Masanobu.
I dont know, you cant really go shopping for cults. Cults go shopping for you.
I just want more affordable housing
The fact the term “affordable housing” exists is the problem, all housing should be affordable, it’s a necessity, not a damn profitmobile.
When do we get some fresh kicks and an icy drink?
I’m honestly so close to going home and living on a kibutz
Don’t drink the Kool-Aide
Avoid the apple sauce too.
Not really, no. The idea of living in a small community makes me feel nauseous and panicky, and the more remote the commune the more intense the aversion.
But I wouldn’t mind some sort of arrangement between some others who also like the idea of being off-grid but who loathe the idea of being in a small community, where we’d be off in the wilds with a LOT of space between us, but still come together occasionally to help each other out with various things, or be available be radio or whatever.
Similarly, the idea of being part of a nomadic group seems quite appealing to me, especially if more people join along the way and others dip in and out.
Already looking for a land that might be livable in 10/15 years
I’m curious where.
Probably hill zones: the land is easier to work than mountains, close to the plains (where there are natural water reserves) but still high enough to have lower temperatures
I’m thinking… North.
And not low lying near a coast.
“Might” or “should”? A lot of land “might” be livable, some different land “should” be livable if you build a fallout shelter and a bio-dome.
If you’ve ever heard of WOOFing that’s a great place to start. It’s a work trade program I did years ago, tons of farms around the world. You get room and board, just work the farm for a short term. I traveled across Canada doing that years ago and ended up staying on one for 2 years in the discovery islands off the coast of BC. One of the best times in my life. Now I live in downtown Toronto, wondering why I ever came back ahaha
I don’t come anywhere near close to meeting the requirements for intentional communities. Chronic illness is a real bastard. I don’t need much and the quality of my life could so easily be improved by just a little help from others, but everyone - even intentional communities - is caught up in focusing on how much others can help them. What I can give is less tangible, and therefore dismissed.
I don’t want to abandon society but I do recognise we’d all be far better off if we lived in ways which were less isolating. Every person/family for themselves harms us all.
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That sounds fantastic, yeah my partner and son are super city dependent they can never leave.
Does the cult have a good plan for healthcare? If so, please send me your newsletter, manifesto, religious tract, pentabarf, whatever.
