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        I’ll vote for any candidate who wants to change the voting system. RCV or some other alternative voting method. Changing the electoral college vote. I’ll vote for that. Not about fear-based voting. Good luck in this upcoming election!

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          Trump’s first term resulted in abortion bans that are actively making women die. Next targets on the list will be banning birth control and GAHT. These will also cause people to die. That’s not to mention how much worse Trump’s positions are on Israel/Palestine and Russia/Ukraine. Is it worth it to you to stand by and watch innocent, marginalized people die in the name of your personal political ideals? Elections are about way more than the idiosyncrasies of the political process. Literal human lives are on the line.

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              I’m pretty sure you only care about the political circlejerk you subscribe to. Cum-stained high fives all around with your cronies. Demand real change. Don’t play into fear politics.

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            Neither candidate cares about people’s lives. Biden could have expanded the court but let Roe/Wade happen. His foreign policy is going to put us in the middle of a war. No different than Trump. We could have already had RCV or some other voting system that allows us to vote for who we actually want instead of fear based voting. Biden could have stepped down and given people a candidate they wanted to vote for. Anything that happens is theirs and your own faults for letting them spin you in hamster balls or decades and scaring you into demanding change. They’ve forced your hands every time and now you’re crippled by the system. Demand change. Don’t play the game. I don’t subscribe to fear politics. Good luck.

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          You think first past the post voting is something that gets changed in a presidential election? Really?

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            No. I’ll vote for somebody who wants to change it while in office. Surprised you would think otherwise…

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              Well now I’m even more confused, no you don’t think a president’s going to be the one to change first past the post, but yet you want to vote for someone who will? So you’re just straight up saying you’re never going to vote? This makes no sense.

              When you stop letting anything excuse your apathy, maybe you’ll be able to start understanding that to change first past the post you have to work at the local levels first. Which I’m sure you don’t do because apathetic people don’t get involved in local politics passionately.

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                Didn’t you hear? Not participating in part of a system absolves you of any moral responsibility for anything! Ever!

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                It’s a constitutional issue if you knew anything. It can happen federally like Roe/Wade or it can be at the state level like many states have done. President can push to make it happen while in office. Not during this current election year.

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                  It’s absolutely not a constitutional issue. Nowhere in the Constitution anywhere is first pass the post mentioned. And even if it were a constitutional issue that wouldn’t be something the president deals with that would be a Congressional issue or more accurately a state issue.

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                    Electoral college in constitution

                    President can appoint judges and can bring attention to issues so people can vote on it. Same thing with partially why Roe/Wade was overturned. Trump packed the court with conservatives. RCV can be done at the state level, but reforming the electoral college voting system can absolutely be spearheaded by a president.

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      Vote for not criminalizing human being? Vote for not giving tax breaks to the wealthy?

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            Two flavours of dying neolibs, a system designed to keep everyone else out, it’s good cop bad cop washington consensus edition, don’t like demoxracy you russian traitor ?

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        You can vote based on fear. I’ll sit this one out until there’s a candidate I actually want to lead our country.

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          It sounds like you’re looking at this like you’re choosing someone to marry. I’ll wait for the one. I don’t want to settle. Etc… but you may never, ever get a candidate you like. Instead, I suggest you think of it like picking a city bus. Is this one going where I want to go? Probably not but it’s closer. And unfortunately, in this metaphor, you have to get on a bus anyway. “Sitting this one out” just means getting on someone else’s bus.

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            It’s okay, when the Nazis come, they’ll realize that he is a purist and will not do anything bad to him.