Don’t wait. Fuck off right now!
don’t let the door hit you in your racist ass. good luck with that whole electricity thing, we’re proud to welcome refugee from The Christian Republic of Trumpistan
ITT: A bunch of people who don’t realize Texas is nearly purple, but gerrymandered to hell. There are millions of us who are blue.
Please, for Christ’s sake, just leave. Have the plebiscite. Take it to Congress. Let them release you on the condition that all Americans in Texas be allowed to emigrate, fully compensated, and all wannabe Texans are allowed to immigrate, fully compensated, for the next 6 months.
Also we’ll build a wall at the Texas-US borders, but not because we think it’ll be effective, just because it’ll be hilariousWe’ll leave it there for convenience when we invade since they will be an unstable oil rich nation in need of freedom.
Ugh, no, let them stay out. We don’t need a Resource Trap country to try nation-building on, pretty sure we already tried that one.
Not 80s-90s era ‘nation building’, 40s era reconstruction. If nazi germany is salvageable we can probably figure texas out with the correct level of commitment.
3rd time is the charm!
So nowhere in the article is it mentioned that the supposed “Texas right to secede” is actually bullshit, and a complete misunderstanding of the actual right that they have, which is to be broken up into five separate states.
Except even that is bullshit, because it was talking about the Texas Territory, which was larger than modern day Texas.
The constitution clearly says that;
New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new States shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.
So yes, Texas could request to be broken up, but congress still needs to okay it.
Now, as to the “right to secede”, that bullshit was settled with the Civil War, States do not have the right to secede, not even Texas.
Republicans like to pretend the Civil War never happened, and want a repeat, I guess.
Counterpoint: The UK isn’t allowed to leave the EU. There’s no mechanism.
There’s a difference between having no official mechanism, and having the largest military in the world knock on your door to tell you that you can’t do something.
If Texas really truly tried to leave the United States, it would be war, and they would not win.
To clarify:
Even if an unambiguous majority of Texas would say “we’d like to turn Texas into an independent country”, you’d rather force them to stay by force of arms?
You don’t get to steal hundreds of thousands of miles of land from a country and wander off. War would happen. Would I like it? No, war is terrible.
Plus, they wouldn’t survive. Let’s say we didn’t retake our land. The inevitable embargo would destroy them. War is war. Financial war is also kinda war.
Cool country with cool rules. Wait, no the opposite.
That’s true, though to be fair most secessions are illegal and are settled by violence.
if I had the money to leave here I would
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Daniel Miller and members of the Texas National Movement delivered 139,456 signatures to the Republican Party headquarters in Austin.
This refers to the most recent Republican gubernatorial primary in 2022 when 1,954,172 votes were cast, electing incumbent State Governor Greg Abbott.
The State Republican Executive Committee was due to decide ballot propositions for March 2024 earlier this month.
Texas has previous when it comes to the idea of secession and it is often mentioned whenever Republican voters become upset over what they see as too much interference from the federal government, usually when there is a Democrat in the Oval Office.
Former Governor Rick Perry joked in 2009 when Barack Obama was president that Texas might consider secession, but also said “we’ve got a great union.”
The Texas Independence Referendum Act, often referred to as “TEXIT,” was introduced by then-state representative Bryan Slaton in March this year, but did not get out of its committee stage.
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My reaction: when Michael Scott finds out that Toby is back, but the exact opposite.
Oh yes please. The next hurricane that hits we won’t have to pay for, and when they freeze or melt because their electrical grid collapses we can just watch.
Texas is one of the few financially functional red states so that wouldn’t be a concern. No clue whether they’d maintain their finances if they seceded.
How financially functional do you think they’ll be when they lose all the trade agreements of the US and the ability to freely trade with the other states?
I have no clue, and anyone on the internet who says they do is dubious at best. It’s an incredibly complex question.
It didn’t go so hot after Brexit, I can’t imagine why we should expect Texit to go better.
Do they still have lots of oil?
That’s a fairly widely traded commodity so probably would help buffer against impacts on other industries of trade instability. Though they might have to consider higher tax on oil or something.
Does Texas have lots of oil, or do oil companies have lots of oil that happens to be located in Texas?
Good luck with that. Yes, one of the major ports in the US is there, lots of military, oil and gas, etc. However, leaving the US, particularly with the local gov having a hard-on for dictatorial bullshit, would basically immediately prove a danger to the US as it could threaten security by (a) having all the left-over military assets but also (b) they could theoretically invite Russia or someone to build a base in Texas and the US will be having none of that. Succession almost certainly means war almost immediately.
Also like you said, all that millitary, oil, and gas
They would be overrun in a day.
I’d love to see that happen.
Do you think the US would leave it’s army and it’s nukes in a different country just like that? Texas has a fun economy
Then the Republican party would lose a large red state, we would finally be rid of Republican presidents and houses, no more extremist bullshit to deal with.
The US would flourish again and go truly MAGA as it no longer had to deal with the Republican shit.
Texas has shit infrastructure that they don’t manage well enough to keep up, it would be a hoot
Texas is home to some of the largest military installations on the planet (Fort Bliss and Fort Cavazos) - the federal economic footprint these (and Lackland, and JSB Carswell and a dozen others) bring to their local economies is massive. Hell, the defense industry footprint in texas is ridiculously large (existing and future helos & fixed wing f22/f35 production) - removing them from Texas would crater their economy.
I tend to look at this like another grift to skin more funds from the stupids.
Yeah, nobody currently in charge would be stoopid enough to do this, but then again each subsequent Republican generation becomes dumber and starts doing the things the previous generation only threatened for money and power. I see them dumb enough to try this 10 years down the road
Y’know, if Texas secedes, we won’t have to remove a star from the flag if we make Puerto Rico a state. Just sayin’.
Don’t let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.
