• Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Every cent made is a fine I want to see more of. Anything less is going to be seen as just the cost of doing business and the behavior will continue.

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      8 months ago

      No, it should be 3x revenue, IMO it’s not enough to just get that money back, it should cause some hurt on top of it.

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        8 months ago

        I’d be happy with 1.1x, 1.2x revenue. They would loose our on development costs too. The only thing not recouped is any gain in brand recognition etc. Make them send a message to all of their customers, and take ads out informing the public how they broke the law, misled them etc.

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    8 months ago

    The actual fine is total revenue + 100k(roughly another 10%). That seems pitifully low for knowingly and intentionally lying about something people trust their lives to.

    • Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      On one hand yes, knowingly endangering lives like that could be worth a heftier fine, on the other hand everything made plus ten percent seems like a pretty good fine to use if you want to actually discourage behavior across the board.

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          8 months ago

          Reminder that it’s all revenue PLUS 10%. So it effectively makes whatever bullshit money making scheme they want to use, cost money instead.

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            8 months ago

            Good to know you dont mind the profiteering off fraud.

            Fine is a penalty, not a cost of business, not a sales tax. A penalty.

            100k fine on 1 mill refund is nothing. 1 mill fine on 1 mill refund is a fine.

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              8 months ago

              My guy. Reading comprehension. I did not say 10%. I said 10% ON TOP OF ANY EARNINGS.

              As in, if a corp earns 1 million, the fine levied would be 1.1 million.

              Christ, go back to 2nd grade.

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                8 months ago

                Stop conflating refund as earnings and a fine. Its not. They didn’t earn shit, they committed fraud and stole money. Forced refunds are not fines

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                  8 months ago

                  Yes, they earned things. Fraudulently. You’re getting up in arms over some terminology that doesn’t quite mesh with your preferences. We’re clearly on the same wavelength - stop organizations from acquiring (does that keep you happy? Getting? Taking? Whatever fucking word you want) money through illegal or unethical methodology.

                  You’re like the worst part of the left. Up in arms because someone dares to have a “different” opinion from you, when if you actually stopped to understand the words they’re saying, you’d realize you’re on the same fucking page.